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Who Is Permitted To Be The President Of The USA? The Full Story Is Embarrassing
The New Terrapin Gazette ^ | 19 January 2016 | LBB

Posted on 01/20/2016 8:03:53 PM PST by Jeff Chandler

Some folks, including Don Trump, think Senator Cruz is not entitled to run for president because he is not a "natural born" citizen. This matter was debated when John McCain ran for the office, yet it seems that the correct answers are still not generally appreciated. So...

...is Senator Ted Cruz qualified to be president? Yes, because the 1790 Immigration Act declares flatly that people in his circumstances are "natural-born" citizens. That law followed the adoption of the constitution by about two years, and some of the founding fathers of the nation were in the Congress at the time. One knows, therefore, exactly what the constitution means by "natural-born".

John McCain's case is extraordinary. He is not a "natural-born" citizen because he was naturalized by act of Congress [snip]

So McCain, who should and could have been legally declared "natural-born", was naturalized instead. Congress never subsequently addressed the clumsy situation, though it could have laid the issues to eternal rest with a federal law precisely defining "natural-born"--as the 1790 act did.

(Excerpt) Read more at newterrapingazette.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; citizen; cruz; cruznbc; eligible; ineligible; natural; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen
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To: RitaOK

So, you believe that the children fathered by American contractors in Iraq are natural born citizens of the USA.


61 posted on 01/20/2016 9:19:56 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: FoxyLady2

Thank you Lady. Seems darn simple to me too. I said he was either an anchor baby to Canada or a natural born Canadian citizen, at birth. No wonder.

Mom had to apply for papers to instate Ted as an American citizen, I read that. Mom and Dad were Canadian citizens, with voting privileges.


62 posted on 01/20/2016 9:23:00 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mollypitcher1; libbylu

Thank you!

Now, how do you convince libbylu? LOL!


63 posted on 01/20/2016 9:24:18 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Kenny

A couple of years ago, 2010? 2011? he said he was not eligible. Then this year he insists he is. He isn’t the smartest guy in the room. It’s all hype. He’s won 5 cases and lost 4 in the Supreme Court. How about if a quarterback won 5 games and lost 4, would he be considered a Tom Brady?

You’re using your head and thinking. Good! Something a lot of people here are not doing. They just take Cruz’s word for it and think it’s the gospel truth.

Look up E. Vattel, Swiss authority on International law. He published The Law of Nations in 1758. John Jay, the future First Chief Justice of the Supreme Court sent a letter to George Washingtin, Chair of the constitutional Committee, advising the use of th term Natural Born Citizen as is found in Vattel. There is a tremendous amount of evidence that the Founders nd Framers were extremely familiar with Vattel’s work. Originally publishd in French, it was translated into English very quickly. You can find info. under Law of Nations as well as Vattel on the net.


64 posted on 01/20/2016 9:26:27 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

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Everything is cuz you said so, huh?

You truly are dense.


65 posted on 01/20/2016 9:27:19 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

BORN in the U.S. of TWO Citizens Parents. Notice the S. It means both parents must be citizens.


66 posted on 01/20/2016 9:30:08 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Timpanagos1

John McCain was born out of country (Panama) to ‘two’ American parents.

Your scenario implies that the contractor is American and the mother is foreign, right?

If only one parent is American, the children would not be a Natural Born Citizen, but could be Naturalized.

I believe that was the way it was written in the naturalization guide.


67 posted on 01/20/2016 9:31:36 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mollypitcher1

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Vattel was no authority. He lived in a monarchy.

The founders were the authority on the constitution, and when they convened as the congress they clarified the meaning: A natural born is one who is a citizen regardless of where he is born.


68 posted on 01/20/2016 9:32:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: r_barton

LoL Not too bad an idea considering what is in the W.H. now. We might even get someone with his head screwed on his shoulders from time to time. Wouldn’t that be something new?


69 posted on 01/20/2016 9:33:20 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Jeff Chandler

If Rubio jumps in the lead, will he be put under the same scrutiny as Cruz?

Neither of his Parents were Citizens at the time of his Birth. He was a Legal Anchor Baby, not an NBC. Jindal was in the same situation.


70 posted on 01/20/2016 9:34:05 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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To: RitaOK

“If only one parent is American, the children would not be a Natural Born Citizen, but could be Naturalized.”

Well then that would include Ted Cruz.


71 posted on 01/20/2016 9:34:28 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Mollypitcher1

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Denser than basalt.

And half as smart.


72 posted on 01/20/2016 9:35:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Timpanagos1

Cruz could not be naturalized because he was born a citizen.

Only aliens can be naturalized.


73 posted on 01/20/2016 9:36:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Jim 0216
shall be considered as

Meaning: they're not, but will be treated as such.

Just like a $1.00 coupon for ice cream will be treated as a dollar for the purpose of purchasing said ice cream.

However, it will never be truly a dollar, able to buy anything.

74 posted on 01/20/2016 9:40:06 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Timpanagos1

Correct.

Did you see that study guide too? I found it on googling “US naturalization study guide” and searched in the guide for “citizensip” and it came up for me.


75 posted on 01/20/2016 9:44:59 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Thanks.


76 posted on 01/20/2016 9:45:13 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: RitaOK

Lillylu is just a lost cause. We’ve been trying to explain it to her for two or three dsys. There comes a time one must accept that nothing penetrates that rock. No brain cells there. the lights may be on, but nobody’s home.


77 posted on 01/20/2016 9:46:51 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you think that children born to American contractors and Iraqi women in Iraq are natural born citizens of the United States?


78 posted on 01/20/2016 9:48:39 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: editor-surveyor

Everything i say I can back up with mountains of documentation. What do you have besides your blathering on about whatever you know nothing about.


79 posted on 01/20/2016 9:49:28 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Timpanagos1

If the children are born to US citizens and are raised in the US they are natural US citizens.


80 posted on 01/20/2016 9:51:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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