I rest my case.
Posted on 01/16/2016 7:59:19 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
It IS so and if you don’t agree/like it...tough!
This happens to be what the government, OUR GOVERNMENT states.
She grim lied and I’m so sick of this all.
I rest my case.
You can start with Washington.
HUMPH, HUMPH :-)
There are two areas that can be discussed; what would be right under some theory, and what is likely to GO DOWN vis a vis Cruz.
No, our dear USSC is not an apolitical body. I think that notion went away last summer if it ever could have been entertained.
Let’s try to GET SOME CONTROL BACK over the situation. Then our theoretical niceties have a chance at traction. I think a Trump spearheaded presidency is plausibly going to lead to this, in the theory I posted further above. Trump gets out the bulldozers when something is not what he likes. He may grudgingly accept the Constitution but he is going to push. And when the stars of the Truth In Marriage constellation are already begging for something to happen, then when the stars of Trump Wants This shine on the situation too... heaven and earth are going to shake.
The result won’t be all clean and neat but it will blaze a path for returned control to We The People. Now your theories will actually have a chance, Mr. Bedford.
Just trying to get people to lighten up. We don’t have to all be enemies. It would be better to be unified as enemies to the devil who really IS grim. The devil only offers you a pleasure to get you to plunge into a tragedy for its sake.
Correct nopardons, as I'm sure you know. The inventiveness of people who are being creative propagandists can discourage those looking for a little truth.
I had a hard time finding any of Cruz statements about citizenship that were true, and while Tribe is definitely liberal, he values his somewhat tarnished (Kagan had to cover for Tribe, one of whose books was full of plagiarism) reputation as a "scholar". Cruz certainly knows that the parents of someone born on sovereign soil need only be citizens. What did a lie do for him? It suggests that Cruz has little respect for the intelligence and knowledge of the electorate. Tribe corrected him, retroactively, in Tribe and Olson's letter to the SR 511 hearing in the Judiciary Committee.
Cruz cites, and must have read Wong Kim Ark, Wong Kim born on our soil to "domiciled" parents, not naturalized because China forbade its subjects repudiation of their citizenship. Wong Kim's first breath, Cruz's explanation for what law made him natural born, was on our soil. Wong Kim, in 1897 was declared a naturalized citizen, based upon the 14th Amendment. Cruz has lied about almost every Constitutional issue he comments upon, though that is probably because most of those questions involve eligibility.
Tribe has carefully avoided lying, just as his student and advisee Obama did, Obama has not claimed to be a natural born citizen. Tribe cited as reasoning for making McCain natural born, just as Mark Levin did, the 1790 Naturalization Act from the 1st Congress, not bothering to mention that it was entirely rescinded by Madison and Washington in 1795, with the phrase natural born citizen replaced by "citizen". The Tribe/Olson letter is what good attorneys often do, misdirect by omission and skillful argument, demonstrating mastery of our language. That is part of why Madison and the other framers kept definitions out of Constitution. The 1790 Naturalization Act is, after all, a naturalization act. Congress only has authority to modify its "Uniform Rules for Naturalization", Article 1 Section 8. Cruz has simply lied. He claims to be, or some claim that he is, a Constitutional scholar. He would not so misrepresent the law. He simply lies.
About half the discussion that has happened in this thread could be boiled down to: there’s a serious shadow over Cruz. The proverbial cards (actually the good Lord) want him in the Senate.
Sometimes it is hard for us to kick against the goads.
The last poll I saw had Cruz up by 3?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html
Sounds like a margin of error difference. But I don’t think this is Cruz’s biggest hazard.
To put it simply and bluntly, TED CRUZ IS A LIAR! He has lied about so many different things now, that my head is spinning. His supporters claim that he is "brilliant"; however, everything that he has done, since he ran for the Senate, has been lie, deceive, get others to lie for him...giving supposed credence to his lies and someone/s need to give him his true comeuppance!
I have NEVER seen so much abject stupidity and bilge posted to FR, since this site began.
I hope you’re aware that Trump is a Putin fan.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949
Not really; he said that Putin is strong leader and that we don’t have one.
Elsewhere? Oh, yes...Saskatchewan and Ontario, too.
For what it’s worth, a “lie list” could be informative. I think we want to be objective here, not the least reason that a lot of mavens are looking in on our discussions here. We are a recognized think tank whether or not we realize it, and it’s come to light a few times. No gratuitous smears please, but when we “handicap” the situation we want to know where we stand. That’s a basic premise of truth. I think we are entering into a season of truth and it is going to be welcome because it will presage the movement of God.
So you finally accept the truth or are you claiming that our government is LYING to those who are about to become citizens?
The lovefest escalated this week when Putin, talking just after his end-of-year press conference, called Trump “a very bright and talented man,†as well as an “absolute leader†in the race for the presidency. Trump, appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe†on Friday, returned the warm embrace, saying it’s nice “when people call you brilliant, it’s always good, especially when the person heads up Russia.â€
And when pressed by co-host Joe Scarborough about the number of high-profile murders of journalists who have been critical of Putin, Trump was reluctant to offer any harsh words. “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader, you know unlike what we have in this country,†Trump responded.
After further questioning, Trump responded, “Well I think our country does plenty of killing also, Joe,†he said. “So, you know. There’s a lot of stupidity going on in the world right now, Joe. A lot of killing going on, a lot of stupidity.â€
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/gop-trump-putin-216949#ixzz3xToFbKAc
We have no virgin births or immaculate conceptions here to play with here on earth.
After we look at everyone with all flaws and strengths taken into account, we need to handicap our horse races with godliness. I suggest using grace as a principle. If we CAN look at something in a GOOD way and we have no further definitive information, DO look at it in a GOOD way. (There are some virtues in the Putin situation; e.g. he’s managed to unite a country. Trump never issued a blanket endorsement. That is what binary thinkers seem to require to be implied.)
However, heading for a trap is not something that can be viewed from a good angle except it takes the person on a different trajectory.
“There have been precisely zero Presidents born outside the US.”
Except for Obama, but that little fact will remain buried, perhaps forever.
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