Do you read your own posts?
Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; . . .
(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at lest five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.
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U.S. Code: Title 8 - ALIENS AND NATIONALITY. Chapter 12 - IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY. Subchapter III - NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION. Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization. § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth: The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: ... (h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
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U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 Consular Affairs. 7 FAM 1151 INTRODUCTION... b. 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23); INA 101(a)(23)) defines naturalization as the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth by any means whatsoever. . . For the purposes of this subchapter naturalization includes:... (5) “Automatic†acquisition of U.S. citizenship after birth, a form of naturalization by certain children born abroad to U.S. citizen parents or children adopted abroad by U.S. citizen parents.
No person who acquires citizenship AT BIRTH is naturalized.
You may be hanging your hat on a very short peg with this reference:
For the purposes of this subchapter naturalization includes:... (5) “Automatic†acquisition of U.S. citizenship after birth, a form of naturalization by certain children born abroad to U.S. citizen parents or children adopted abroad by U.S. citizen parents.
Please note that what is describe here is a special circumstance whereby citizenship is conferred AFTER birth by naturalization to 'certain' children. This is not the usual rule or process.
No person who acquires citizenship AT BIRTH is naturalized. Correct. That's the bottom line. And no US court will ever rule that a person who was a US citizen at birth is not a natural born citizen. It simply makes no sense.
Someone who is a US citizen at birth has not been naturalized, and thus they are natural born.
All else is obfuscation.
No person who acquires citizenship AT BIRTH is naturalized.You need to head straight to DC and straighten out the people there then, John, because that isn't what they say.
There are two general ways to obtain citizenship through U.S. citizen parents, one at birth and one after birth but before the age of 18.
Chapter 1 - Purpose and Background
In general, current nationality laws only refer to acquisition of citizenship for persons who automatically become U.S. citizens either at the time of birth or after.
Chapter 3 – United States Citizens at Birth (INA 301 and 309)
A person born in the United States who is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States is a U.S. citizen at birth, to include a person born to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe.
Surely they aren't talking about people who aren't aliens/foreigners since Congress can only establish an uniform rule of naturalization (nationality laws wouldn't govern a natural born citizen because their nationality is already established, right?), are they?