Posted on 01/14/2016 1:38:01 PM PST by Kaslin
[[I think Governor Haley dug her own political grave Tuesday night. With a backhoe.]]
I disagree- I believe she dug it with an excavator- a huge steam shovel, and a few giant rock trucks to transport the dirt away fro mthe hole so she could dig deeper
Why the Hell would I or any other FReeper would want to join a Haley PING list?
well she is an adulterer right - so what’s new??
Hey don’t you dare put us women in one pot
Those whose futures depend upon the media, with at least one notable exception, are afraid of the Alinsky tactic, Rule 5, “ridicule is man’s most potent weapon”. The term “Birthers” was a brilliant propaganda tool, perhaps on par with “McCarthyism”. It is a symbol that appeals to tribal instincts. But it is also a tool.
It is not coincidental that Obama, Cruz, Jindal, Rubio, and Nikki Haley are all naturalized citizens. Even Mark Levin, sadly avoids using the term “natural born citizen” when he deploys his bluster. Ann Coulter, who lost some of my respect when she mis-cited the law, Ann, who served under a Supreme Court Justice, as have several of the obfuscators, had the integrity to tell us she was wrong. http://humanevents.com/2016/01/13/were-all-ruth-bader-ginsburg-now/?utm_source=coulterdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
There is a rule, with no pretense that this is easy to understand, based upon Article 1 Section 8, “Congress...shall create an Uniform rule for Naturalization”, and Article II Section 1 Clause 5, “No person except a natural born Citizen or Citizen of the U.S. at the Adoption of this Constitution...”
If Congress could write code interpreting or abrogating articles and amendments of the Constitution the Supreme Court and Constitution are irrelevant. Congress could, as they have already begun to do, replace the Constitution with U.S, code - laws created by corruptible men, not rules based upon Natural Law, with which most, if they read about Natural Law, would agree. Naturalized citizens are all created via Article 1 Section 8, which was the foundation for the 14th Amendment.
Our framers couldn’t provide a rule for Naturalization because many states would not have ratified the Constitution and we would probably have become at least two nations, as Canada was partitioned between the French and English. It took an abolitionist judge from Ohio, John Bingham, to write the Naturalization clause, section 1 of the 14th Amendment. He made it perfectly clear that he was not touching the definition of natural born citizen, “I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….”
Why would Nikki Haley be rolled out as a vice presidential candidate? This is obviously not-so-wild conjecture, but based upon Amendment XX. Were Republicans to elect a ticket of two attractive young naturalized citizens anyone in Congress, and states might also provide standing, could challenge. If our judiciary is as corrupt as it appears to have been under Obama, denying standing to everyone even as Barack himself told us he was “Born a Subject of the British Commonwealth”. If a challenge gets past the “standing” barricade, the choice of both the president and vice president goes to Congress. That is Amendment XX. The naturalized citizens may be stalking horses throwing real control of trillions of dollars to executives they select and control, which is just what was done with Obama, who was protected by our CIA, Wahhabi convert John Brennan, and State Department.
It has happened before. Remember Alger Hiss, confirmed a senior KGB officer by Venona decrypts, Harry Dexter White, assistant treasury secretary, KGB officer, and creator of the IMF and World Bank, and who influence the denial of funds to Chiang kai-Shek, throwing China to Mao with KGB backing. Read Diana West’s American Betrayal and “Stalin’s Secret Agents” by Stanton Evans and Herb Romerstein. History is full of conspiracies, and much of our history has been concealed by our own government. Trust original documents. The Constitution doesn’t, by design, contain definitions. Only the Supreme Court may provide such interpretation, and they have provided that definition dozens of times, with Minor v. Happersett, 1875 the first time this writer knows of that the decision required the definition. Wong Kim Ark and Perkins v. Elg cited Minor. Congress has no authority to alter that definition.
The often cited 1790 Naturalization Act, cited by Larry Tribe and Ted Olson for why McCain was natural born, is a “Naturalization Act”, and was entirely rescinded in 1795, with natural born citizen replaced by “citizen”.
Many of us owe to Obama the inspiration to read about our founders and framers, as few of us, including, sadly, most attorneys with whom I’ve spoken. To really understand natural born citizenship, you could read Chief Justice John Marshall’s contribution to “The Venus”, 12 U.S. 253, 1814, or preferably, because the definition was essential to the decision, Chief Justice Morrison Waite’s elegant and precise, and unanimous, decision in Minor v. Happersett. 88 U.S. 162. Minor was first explained to me by two heros of the quest for legal honesty by attorneys Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo, is the case whose citations were corrupted by the Center For American Progress (CAP) fellow, Tim Stanley, and its CIO, Karl Malamud. tanley is CEO of Justia.com, the Internet’s largest resource for legal documents. Malamud had friends at Cornell where references to Minor v. Happersett were “munged”. Stanley pled a “computer error”. Who would bring him to court”.
A relatively famous professor at Boalt Hall, U.C.’s on-campus law school, subtly exposed Stanley and Malamud, explaining why “free” legal cites (like Justia) might not be trustworthy. He didn’t accuse them, but explained that he assigns his students the task of comparing information provided by the commercial sites with the free sites, two of which were founded by the progressive Stanley. Stanley blocked access to his “Wayback” site records, in which Minor v. Happersett citations were mangled, during the Summer and Fall of 2008. Shortly after exposure Stanley added a disclaimer about the accuracy of Supreme Court cases presented by Justia.com. Many had copied the early versions of cases, before Stanley blocked access to his “Wayback” records. Justia had correct citations before the Summer of 2008.
I know people say Chelsea looks like Webb H., but I just can’t see it.
Because Haley is so bad she must be taken very seriously!
WTF are you talking about?
You sound like a troll that the leftie sites like to reference when they talk about “racist conservatives”.
On the other hand, you might just be an idiot racist Democrat. Stop trolling, dude. You party abandoned you a long time ago, except that it is still the party of racism.
Agreed. The GOP hates us and then blames us when we don’t support them.
In 2010 and 2014 WE gave them Congress and they’ve done NOTHING.
To hell with them. I hope they lose those 1,000 up and down seats WE gave them the last 6 years. All of them.
If I’m going to be “ruled” it might as well be by my enemy and not my so-called friend.
FU GOP!
so, where was Nimrata born?
is she a “natural born” US citizen?
natural born is also required to be VP.
can anybody hop in on this?
It’s clear now the SC voters are mostly morons. I can say the same for my state when idiots think Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker are conservative.
+1
Chelsea looks a lot like Hillary.
Bill? Not so much.
Webb? Not so much either.
I think this is a silly thing for "conservatives" to get hung up about.
When Bill was raping his prey, he claimed to be "sterile", so no worries, babe.
Good God, does ANYONE believe anything Bill says?
Amendment XX, end of an era. Finito Benito for the States, once the pols figured out "what women want" .... no wars, cradle-to-grave security, butterfly kisses around the clock. Grocery baskets not battleships -- and who the hell needs airplanes? Space program? Oh, you mean like down at the Container Store?
No wonder it's all going to hell.
Hold the phone, there, professor. Nikki Haley brought up the ethnicity angle herself -- while throwing white South Carolina under the bus with Dylann Roof chained around their necks.
She made a big deal of the fact that her family are not like those odious cracker people, the "bitter clingers" who own Confederate flags (I own five or six different ones .... along with about 40 other American and Texian flags). She pointed out, and made a Thing of it, that her family are ethnically distinct from white Carolinians (no, you aren't, Nikki, not if your folks are from northern India, but that's another argument), and then threw white South Carolina under the bus.
The NAALCP bloody-shirt wavers must be dancing an Irish jig at all the propaganda bonus points she gave them. So yeah, she's a fair target since she made herself one.
She made a big deal of the fact that her family are not like those odious cracker people, the “bitter clingers” who own Confederate flags
the more I think about Haley and her phony tears and manufactured outrage, dancing to the tune the Dems called, groveling the whole time...the angrier I get...
I just manage the list, adding or removing FReepers as requested. I suggest you direct your question to those on the list.
after 70 years of observation, I standby my post....
Agree Fully. I cannot stand that kind of back stabbing.
She already showed her colors when she didn’t thank Palin for campaigning for her.
I believe she was born in this country. My point is that her family raised her with an emphasis on the culture of the country they left. They, like many other immigrants, also had no trouble leaving America to advance their careers, and then returning to America when that, too, advanced their careers.
While it’s perfectly legal, it bothers me to no end to see people that we welcome to this country use it only as a stepping stone for their career.
And then it bothers me on top of that to see them trying to conceal their culture and act as though they are you typical Americans, when that advances their careers.
Be who you are. Be proud of it. Don’t hide it. Isn’t that we conservatives always want, and isn’t being a hypocrite what we despise in the DNC liberals?
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