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BREAKING: Defense Secretary Slips Up, Reveals Obama Admin LED IRAN Straight to Our Sailors
Conservative Tribune ^ | 1/14/16 | By: Wilmot Proviso

Posted on 01/14/2016 11:21:42 AM PST by blueyon

BREAKING: Defense Secretary Slips Up, Reveals Obama Admin LED IRAN Straight to Our Sailors First came the fact that President Barack Obama refused to address the arrest of 10 of our sailors by the Iranian military after their boats had mechanical trouble at sea. Then came news that the Obama administration had offered the Iranians an apology for the release of the sailors.

Now comes the disturbing revelation, apparently delivered by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, that the Obama administration tipped off the Iranians that our soldiers were lost at sea and requested their aid. The news came from Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, during an interview on TheBlaze’s Dana Loesch shortly after Iran’s arrest of the sailors had come to light.

“I understand that (Secretary of State) John Kerry has indicated, look, when he got word, he and Ash Carter called the Iranians to help take care of our Navy guys, because they had some mechanical problems,” Gohmert said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashcarter; ashtoncarter; clinton; congress; corruption; democrats; farsiisland; govtabuse; hillaryclinton; iran; iranseizesussailors; kerry; mediabias; military; obam; obama; obamahijab
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To: sten

The various traitors in our government are tiresome. They need swift Righteous Justice.


161 posted on 01/14/2016 8:10:13 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: blueyon

Wake Up!


162 posted on 01/14/2016 9:35:11 PM PST by Ray76
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To: null and void

The only way the DiC could get the Iranians our modern equipment


163 posted on 01/14/2016 10:41:35 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Boogieman

Since when can SOS a cross boarder action? I thought it had to be CIC. That is at the heart of the Benghazi trouble. CIC was not available.


164 posted on 01/15/2016 4:38:05 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH
^^Since when can SOS authorize^^
165 posted on 01/15/2016 4:39:10 AM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: wtd

The Naturalization Act of 1790 legislated during the Second Session of the First Congress. The following portion of the Act discussed natural born citizen as follows:

And the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty-one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, That person heretofore proscribed by any State, shall be admitted as a citizen as aforesaid, except by an act of Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.[ii]

Are not the words you showed me? The Naturalization Act of 1790 was repealed because the First Congress did not have the authority to change the original meaning of “natural born citizen” set by the Framers of the Constitution. If you read the Naturalization Act of 1795, the words “natural born citizen” are not used. That is because that term was specifically used for the chief office (and Vice President) of the land. Go to the Naturalization Act of 1795 and see if I am correct.

By the way, I have always loved Senator Cruz. He is my modern version of Abraham Lincoln because of his grasp of the conservative fundamentals that should be governing this nation. I only do this examination of “natural born citizen” as an effort to educate those to what I see as the truth. I would hate to see Senator Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz be going from the campaign rallies to the lawsuit court contesting his eligibility; when he has to win an election, if nominated. I would be devastated if that happened; especially if der Hildebeast drops out because of an indictment.

Go here for a good explanation of my case:

https://hesnotmypresident.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/natural-born-citizen-chapter-3-the-naturalization-act-of-1790/


166 posted on 01/15/2016 3:42:16 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: moehoward; Travis McGee; Squantos; wardaddy
My best *guess* at this moment is that the 2 riverine craft were extraction units.

If we learn of some SpecOps who "died in training accidents" in the next month, then our guys didn't make it out of Farsi Island.

And if we hear of no training accidents in the next month, then I'd expect that our guys got out...perhaps not with *that* extraction team, though.

Two U.S. Marine Corps CH-53E helicopters have collided off Hawaii (12 Marines missing)

167 posted on 01/15/2016 6:16:09 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Kudsman

FOX Radio News reported this morning that the DOD has changed their story.

Neither of the boats broke down; there was a problem with the GPS is the new line from Ashton Carter (according to FOX Radio News).


168 posted on 01/16/2016 7:36:45 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often and for the same reason.....Mark Twain)
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To: Southack

“Two U.S. Marine Corps CH-53E helicopters have collided off Hawaii (12 Marines missing)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3384187/posts

“If we learn of some SpecOps who “died in training accidents” in the next month, then our guys didn’t make it out of Farsi Island.”

“And if we hear of no training accidents in the next month, then I’d expect that our guys got out...perhaps not with *that* extraction team, though.”

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Connected?


169 posted on 01/17/2016 11:44:40 AM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: GOPJ

Probably.


170 posted on 01/17/2016 2:16:47 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

Thanks...


171 posted on 01/18/2016 2:30:06 AM PST by GOPJ (It's more important to have a gun in your hand than a cop on the phone- Florida Sheriff Grady Judd)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ash Carter Is a punk for the Obama Admin. Are you?


172 posted on 01/18/2016 2:32:55 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: B-Cause

NO THEY DO NOT.


173 posted on 01/18/2016 2:34:27 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

I can guarantee they did when I was a Midshipman there in 1955!


174 posted on 01/18/2016 1:06:31 PM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: B-Cause

So, you have instilled dedication to purpose. Good.

Was McCain a fellow in your time, sir?


175 posted on 01/18/2016 1:17:11 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Sounds like Ash Carter must be about up to his eyebrows in frustration.

I don't trust him.

He was selected for a reason, and one of the most important criteria of such a high position, especially after Panetta and Hagel, was that he does the will of his master.

176 posted on 01/18/2016 1:19:29 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

my thought too...... Ash is covering his(DOD)ass.

Kumbaya will get our troops killed

Obama has too long left to go

the risk is too great


177 posted on 01/18/2016 1:21:21 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: blueyon

The MSM completely ignored this story from Louie Gohmert.


178 posted on 01/18/2016 1:22:38 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: RedHeeler

He was 1 year ahead of me. I was class of 1959, and he was class of 1958.


179 posted on 01/18/2016 8:31:42 PM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: blueyon

DON’T GIVE UP THE SHIP 
Bob Lonsberry © 2016
 
The account of two U. S. Navy vessels being seized by the Iranian navy earlier this week seems completely implausible.

No part of it makes any sense.

The story is that two river patrol boats – bristling modern-day incarnations of the Vietnam swift boats – were navigating south from Kuwait to Bahrain. At some point, via some means, the two boats, with their contingent of five sailors each, surrendered to the Iranians.

Two accounts have been offered as to how that happened. The first was that one of the vessels lost its engine and that they both then drifted into Iranian waters. The other was that the two boats had been operating fine, but inadvertently navigated into Iranian territory.

Simply put, they got lost.

Neither account seems possible.

First off, if one of the boats broke down, and the sailor aboard trained to tend the engine couldn’t fix it, the other boat would merely take it in tow and they would proceed on their way. That is not a novel maritime undertaking.

The second scenario – oops, we got lost – is even less likely. It turns out that navigation and navigation equipment are kind of a high priority for the Navy. Boats don’t get lost. Highly technical navigation equipment on both boats would have told crew members exactly where they were.

And in the unlikely event that both boats lost all electronic navigational equipment, and the compasses lost track of magnetic north, there is the simple fact that sailing from Kuwait to Bahrain pretty much involves nothing more complex than keeping the shore on your starboard side. And should you lose sight of shore, and can remember that the map has safety to the west and danger to the east, you’d think that the position of the sun in the sky or the fact that prevailing winds in the Persian Gulf in the winter are northwesterly, would somehow have allowed our sailors to find the Saudi shoreline instead of Iranian waters.

And all of that presumes that these two boats were operating alone in the open seas, which they presumably were not. There is, in fact, a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier battle group operating in the Persian Gulf.

The USS Harry S Truman owns the Persian Gulf these days, and the significant American military presence in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait – lands immediately proximate to the waters where our sailors were operating – makes us the biggest dog on the block.

And we’ve got radar and helicopters and airplanes and stuff like that.

And if an American vessel breaks down at sea, or strays from course, under those operational conditions, there are a lot of American assets that would both notice the problem and be able to offer relief.

Yet no one did.

We’re supposed to believe nobody radioed a couple of inexplicably lost boats to ask where they were going? When one of them supposedly broke down, a carrier battle group had no means to come to their assistance?

That makes no sense.

It’s completely unbelievable.

So is the apparent conduct of the sailors in the face of a supposed challenge by the Iranian military.

If one of the vessels was disabled, as is claimed, and hostile craft are approaching, bringing with them the prospect of capture and captivity, don’t you put all 10 sailors on the able boat, sink the disabled boat, and race the bad guys back to international waters?

From the Iranian video, it looks like two or three bass boats and four guys in mismatched uniforms, with a couple of AK’s, captured two far-larger and better-armed American boats, both of which were bristling with mounted machine guns.

Here’s a fact: When you’re kneeling on the deck of your own boat, with your hands clasped behind your head, and some guy’s shouting at you in terrorist language, things didn’t go right.

And yet, that’s exactly what supposedly happened here. Ten American sailors, successors to Captain James Lawrence, are on their knees next to their unfired guns, in the face of a smaller and less well-armed opponent – with little American flags snapping in the breeze.

This is not the stuff of Commodore Perry and Admiral Farragut.

And you wonder whose call it was.

How far up the chain of command did they have to go to find the cowardly lion who ordered this genuflection before a bunch of savages? Did this get bounced all the way to the Pentagon, or the Situation Room? Which secretary of what made the decision not to put a squadron of naval aviators above those two boats to keep the camel jockeys at bay?

It is shameful, a worldwide embarrassment for the nation and the Navy.

And it is topped off by an obsequious videotaped apology, and pictures of our sailors, captive in hostile hands, the female with a towel over her head.

The President can ignore this.

But we can’t.

We got pantsed. We got humiliated. We showed either weakness or incompetence. And unfortunately either one only invites aggression against us.

It is inconceivable that you could find 10 Americans willing to surrender themselves and their equipment without a fight. It is not plausible that any young man or woman entering into the naval service would willingly kneel on the deck of a combat-capable ship.

Somebody told them to give up.

And that somebody, and the philosophy he represents, will be the death of us.

- by Bob Lonsberry © 2016


180 posted on 01/20/2016 2:32:52 PM PST by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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