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WaPo (Op-Ed): Ted Cruz Not Eligible
Washington Post ^ | January 12, 2016 | Mary Brigid McManamon

Posted on 01/12/2016 10:09:44 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall

Donald Trump is actually right about something: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is not a natural-born citizen and therefore is not eligible to be president or vice president of the United States.

The Constitution provides that "No person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of President." The concept of "natural born" comes from the common law, and it is that law the Supreme Court has said we must turn to for the concept's definition. On this subject, the common law is clear and unambiguous. The 18th-century English jurist William Blackstone, the preeminent authority on it, declared natural-born citizens are "such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England," while aliens are "such as are born out of it."

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Cruz is, of course, a U.S. citizen. As he was born in Canada, he is not natural born. His mother, however, is an American, and Congress has provided by statute for the naturalization of children born abroad to citizens. Because of the senator's parentage, he did not have to follow the lengthy naturalization process that aliens without American parents must undergo. Instead, Cruz was naturalized at birth.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cds; cruz; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; nonsense; presidential
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To: jwalsh07

Not if their parent(s) aren’t citizens at the time of their birth.


61 posted on 01/12/2016 10:33:04 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("If this poor life of mine could save you, [my country] how willingly would I make the sacrifice!")
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To: Faith Presses On
“He’s not a natural born citizen,” BUT

He “was naturalized at birth.”

He is just “not a natural born citizen” because of his politics.

No.....

"Natural born" and "naturalized at birth" are not the same thing.

The term "naturalised" indicates a person receiving their citizenship per the uniform rules of naturalisation established by Congress per their constitutional power to do so. It describes a person who does not "naturally" (i.e. natural born) acquire citizenship via natural law (i.e. both parents are citizens, born on US soil via the common law principle of jus soli) but is instead declared by US law to have been extended the rights and privileges of our citizenship. Sometimes this happens to an adult who immigrates here. Sometimes it happens with a child born in circumstances such as Cruz's - but the end result is that BOTH have their citizenship via statute - even if the one has it from birth.

Like it or not, Ted Cruz is not "natural born" as common and natural law describe it. He was "naturalised," which means he is not qualified constitutionally.

62 posted on 01/12/2016 10:33:14 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: moehoward
Take it up with the Supreme Court of the United States and our Founding Fathers.

Also Notice the signature blocks at the bottom of this:



1st United States Congress, 21-26 Senators and 59-65 Representatives


Also notice that the Supreme Court has backed up that definition!


So the statement that "natural born means both parents " has been DENIED by the courts !
63 posted on 01/12/2016 10:34:23 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
She needs one of these:


64 posted on 01/12/2016 10:34:36 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
IF Trump is hanging his hat on this concept, (please refer to my previous answer), then he can kiss my vote good bye.

Even if he does win the nomination, I`ll never vote for any candidate that places other laws and the concepts of them, over our Natural Law right to make our own laws and their concepts.

I base this on the heart of Natural Law`s practical implementation, the right of the Sovereign Citizen to lend some of that sovereignty in a compact with the state, thereby creating a Republic based on their own unique interpretations of law.

65 posted on 01/12/2016 10:34:46 AM PST by nomad
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
That’s utter nonsense. Our legal system is based on English common law. We imported countless concepts from the English common law into our own system. Sure there are significant ways in which our constitutional system of government differed and differs from theirs, but those are the exceptions that prove the general rule that we inherited the English common law system and continue to use it to this day.

No not at all. We only look outside our Constitution to determine definitions of phrases in the Constitution that are ambiguous.

66 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:06 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: KC_Lion
Why is it so hard to understand that if you are born to an American, you are an American citizen from Birth?

Nobody is questioning Ted Cruz's citizenship.

What's being questioned is whether he is "natural born" or "naturalised." Common law and US statute say he is naturalised.

67 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:13 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

68 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:41 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Quit posting this crap. You give them hits on their websites and that means money in their pockets. Please stop posting their drivel.


69 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:44 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Campion

There’s no legal category of citizenship called “naturalized at birth but not natural born”.

Yes, there is. If you derive your citizenship by reference to a naturalization statute, then you are naturalized, not natural born. If you derive your citizenship by virtue not of a statute, but common law understandings of how citizenship is determined, then you are a natural born citizen.

For example, if someone is born in the U.S., what statute determines whether they are a citizen or not?


70 posted on 01/12/2016 10:35:50 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: eastforker; skeeter; Behind the Blue Wall; Norm Lenhart; cripplecreek; SubMareener; jpsb; TBBT; ...
The fact that we have Birth Tourism and those Hospitals are handing out Citizenship Papers to those Mexican kids tells me everything I need to know Natural Born etc Laws.

Ted Cruz is Edible for the Presidency. Period. And Just because Trump brought it up doesn't mean everyone has to rush to defend this nonsense.

Would anyone say any different of Ted Cruz if Trump wasn't in the Race and it was Hillary Bringing this up?

71 posted on 01/12/2016 10:36:10 AM PST by KC_Lion (The fences are going up all over Europe. We shall not see them down again in our lifetime.)
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To: KC_Lion

No one is questioning that he is an American Citizen, he was also a Canadian citizen up to about 18 months ago. You are aware of that correct?

You see he was also born to a canadian of cuban decent, his dad.


72 posted on 01/12/2016 10:36:13 AM PST by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Summary of article:

Ted Cruz was naturalized at birth, but was not natural born.

Wapo logic


73 posted on 01/12/2016 10:36:32 AM PST by kidd
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To: jwalsh07
The Act was amended to extend the time for naturalized citizens being in the US to 5 years.

The words were indeed removed, exactly as the article states.

and fatherhood did not appear in the act or the Constitution.

It appears in the definition of "Natural Born." The founders didn't bother to define it inside the Constitution because it already had a definition that was well known.

74 posted on 01/12/2016 10:37:11 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: moehoward

True or not, there is enough here for a Lib jurist on the Federal Bench to issue an injunction against Cruz being sworn-in.

Up for a little Obama Overtime, anyone?


75 posted on 01/12/2016 10:37:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Politicalkiddo

BINGO

Magic trick. Look over here at the BC (which was conveniently made difficult to find) don’t look at my parentage


76 posted on 01/12/2016 10:37:27 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: eastforker

He’s not an honorable man by refusing to deal with this issue in an honest and forthright manner. He was one of the top graduates of Harvard Law School; he therefore is well aware that this is not a “settled matter” and citing a naturalization statute from 1790, repealed in 1795, has no bearing whatsoever on the answer.


77 posted on 01/12/2016 10:37:44 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

“Instead, Cruz was naturalized at birth.”


Hmmm.


78 posted on 01/12/2016 10:38:04 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kidd

Naturalized is, by definition, the opposite of “natural born.”


79 posted on 01/12/2016 10:38:21 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Wrong lefty. Cruz has never been naturalized because he is natural born. The only law coincident with the ratification of the Constitution that defined natural born was the first Naturalization Act. That is the definition of original intent pal. Subsequent laws never contemplated a redefinition because it was not controversial. Thanks act was changed to extend the amount of time one lived in the US before one could be naturalized. You find penunmbras in bs because you are a liberal.


80 posted on 01/12/2016 10:38:24 AM PST by jwalsh07
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