I was looking for that article and cannot find it today! I remember it well. We were told that no hard copy existed in HI.
Posted on 01/10/2016 4:49:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
January 10th, 2016
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump; White House chief of staff Denis McDonough.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): McDonough; Trump.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis.; Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton; Republican presidential candidates Chris Christie and Rand Paul.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio; Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; McDonough.
STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): McDonough; Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz.
Sharyl Attkisson's Full Measure 1. New evidence that a rescue mission to save the U.S. Ambassador in Benghazi was ready to go… only to be told to stand down. 2. The President vows to take action on gun control. Do his 'actions' really have teeth? 3. Prime time politics. A look at the debates and whether the circus atmosphere is demeaning.
Most scholars who've studied it with Rubio, McCain, Obama, and now Cruz find that fact makes him natural born by default. He did not require naturalization. If you don't need naturalization, then you must be natural born.
....as I understand all the current debates.
You would certainly hope so. I’m withholding judgement on Trey/Benghazi committee until I see the final report.
Regardless of what the report says, even if it damns Obama, Hillary, etc., they won’t be held to account for leaving Americans to die. I heard Earnest a while back “parsing” this ... he had changed the meme to we don’t leave Americans ‘in uniform’ behind. This makes getting deserter Berghdahl back “ok” & since the 4 at Benghazi weren’t in military uniform, leaving them to die appears ‘excusable’ using this contortion of language.
Thanks very much cheerio.
On the stuffy steffy show Rush wannabe Hugh Hewitt, the biggest Rhlino around trying to make amends with conservatives by revealing that Hillary just did what you just wrote about declassified secret emails to normal just to get it run.
She knows dam well thats illegal.she knows he’s guilty as sin.
The big question is how much can the media ignore all this and will anything at all be done before before the elections?
I was looking for that article and cannot find it today! I remember it well. We were told that no hard copy existed in HI.
So does that mean that the 300,000 anchor babies born each year to illegal aliens are natural born and eligible to be President? What about the thousands of children born each year to tourists?
There are two kinds of natural born citizens: (1) Those born on US soil (jus solis); and (2)those born elsewhere to US citizens thru blood (jus sanguinis)--derivative citizenship. The latter requires that certain conditions be met and that you must apply to gain citizenship. It is not automatic.
I think one thing we are all over looking this morning is just how deceptive a job the drive by media did on Zero’s eligibility. It was put down so hard and probably the most important thing that was done was the big agencies dia, CIA, FBI and undoubtedly Secret Service have just done a huge job on this information on the birth certificate and eligibility
and where he was born
The disinformation campaign was so good no one really knows the absolute truth.there’s a half a dozen solutions that we came up with but we really don’t know which is which.
and that’s all due to the massive dis information campaign these guys are as good as anyone has ever been in lying to the public.
We do know thru the work of Arpaio that the long form BC is a fraud. The MSM and Congress for that matter have shown no interest in pursuing it. Sad.
In the time of our framers, primary importance seems to have been placed upon the father and his citizenship over that of the mother. Nevertheless, meaning a person born in the US to American citizens. (plural)
We need this resolved by SCOTUS sooner rather than later.
From Minor vs. Happersett: The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. However, the term of art at the time was clearly defined. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
The "Law of Nations" is referenced in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. Ben Franklin testified to the fact that the Framers consulted Vattel's work while drafting the Constitution and wrote a letter thanking American diplomat Charles Dumas for the copies of the book.
And we should angrily point the finger of blame at the criminal in chief, the FAKE BC, and his enablers...from both sides.
Glad to hear you say this. I was taught the same thing...in the 60's.
I think that's a fair and accurate summary or one side of the debate, the side that concludes Cruz is NBC.
Th way I summarize the other side, the one that says Cruz is not NBC but is naturalized, is stated by SCOTUS.
Bellei was not "born . . . in the United States," but he was, constitutionally speaking, "naturalized in the United States." Although those Americans who acquire their citizenship under statutes conferring citizenship on the foreign-born children of citizens are not popularly thought of as naturalized citizens, the use of the word "naturalize" in this way has a considerable constitutional history. Congress is empowered by the Constitution to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization," Art. I, S: 8. Anyone acquiring citizenship solely under the exercise of this power is, constitutionally speaking, a naturalized citizen.Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971)
I persist that the legal question is purely academic. The court won't interfere with the political process -- the constitution envisions the possibility of an ineligible candidate obtaining the most votes.
I can't imagine Congress reversing the outcome of an election of a person who was a citizen at birth, and once seated, SCOTUS won't touch the case. Can you imagine the upheaval? It would be socially unsettling to say the least. No, the appearance of everything proceeding in order is more important than getting it right.
Actually the SCOTUS stated:
Under Common Law, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Minor vs Happersett
Unlike the Reps, the Dems will make it an issue if either Cruz or Rubio gets the nomination.
Why no controversy over Rubio’s eligibility? I could be wrong but I thought both his parents were non-citizens at the time of his birth.
And in pops Elizabeth Warren.
Hey Dude!
Well, here's one bit of truth: Nasty Pelosi vouched for his eligibility and 57 Attorneys General certified him for the ballots.
(well, true except for the 57 part)
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