Posted on 01/07/2016 7:24:39 AM PST by VinL
The problem is that when these disputes become personal, as is happening rapidly in this race, supporters of other candidates may become alienated. The state and local party official whose ground support is (unfortunately) critical to winning an election may be alienated as well.
I am not a Trump supporter. I think he's a loud-mouth who isn't close to being a conservative. That being said, if he's the nominee, I'm still voting for the guy (while holding my nose) because every single one of the GOP candidates is more likely to appoint a conservative Justice to the Supreme Court than is Hillary. Including Trump.
The Court is 5-4 at best right now, but if any of the Republican appointees retires under a Democratic President, it's going to be 5-4 for the hard left. And nothing else will really matter at that point.
I hate seeing Trump do this kind of thing not only because it hurts other potential nominees, but because it will hurt Trumps own support among Republicans come the general election if he is the nominee.
The 11th Commandment has been trashed at this point, and all we can do now is watch each candidate generate soundbites for the Democrats to use against the Republican nominee next November.
"Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."
I thought we did not like Libertarians? Cato is Libertarian think tank you know, Libertarians are not very good on issues of citizenship, borders, trade, etc. They are very good on tax and spending I like give them that.
I absolutely hate public schools
8 U.S. Code § 1403 - Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904
"Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."
Trump did not raise it. That is a complete lie, Trump was asked a question and gave an honest answer.
Not true
There are three types of citizenship
* Natural Born Citizen, two citizen parents born on soil (exceptions for foreign born if parents are abroad in service to country) McCain
* Citizen by birth, foreign born to citizen parent(s) Ted Cruz
* Naturalized citizen, a person made a citizen by statute. Rafael Cruz
I base the above on the following
The authors cite to the Naturalization Act of 1790 and ignore the fact that the Naturalization Act of 1795, with the lead of then-Rep. James Madison and with the approval of President George Washington, repealed it and specifically changed "shall be considered as natural born citizens" to "shall be considered as citizens of the United States."
James Madison the "father of the Constitution" changed the wording from "natural born citizen" to "citizen". Madison was no dope and the change was to prevent a foriegn born from becoming Commander in Chief. But this also serves to illustrate that "citizen at birth" does not mean "natural born citizen".
See more at
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/tag/harvard-law-review/
This is not rocket science.
It’s funny that your source takes exception to someone citing a superceded law, and then cites a superceded law himself. Currently, there are only 2 types of citizens recognized under US law, and it doesn’t matter what the situation would have been in 1795, because this is not 1795.
Besides, the 1795 act still declares them citizens from birth, which is exactly equivalent to saying they are natural born. I’d wager Madison removed the term because it was simply redundant.
I gather you are not a fan of our Constitution. Since the Constitution says the POTUS must be a Natural Born Citizen then yes it does matter what they thought in 1795.
I belong to side which believes the "Original Intent" of the founders is the correct way to interpret the Constitution. You are arguing the "living document" interpretation. It will not be possible for me or anyone else to convince a "living document" person that they are wrong. "Living document" people just make things up as they go alone. Like you are doing now, so see ya later.
OOpps go along not go alone
“I gather you are not a fan of our Constitution. Since the Constitution says the POTUS must be a Natural Born Citizen then yes it does matter what they thought in 1795.”
Actually, that’s a total failure of an argument, since the Constitution predated 1795. If you want to judge original intent, show us writings from the time the Constitution was being debated that settle this question.
You cannot do that, because the question was not settled at the time the Constitution was written. Therefore, there is no “original intent” to appeal to. The founders were good, but the were not infallible, and they simply did not cover every question. When original intent is not available to us, as it is not with this question, we only have subsequent jurisprudence and legislation to determine the specifics.
And then that would mean that any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whose father and mother were not citizens of the U.S, would not be a U.S. citizen, right? So it is as I said; McCain is U.S. citizen because his parents were. The fact that he was born in the Canal Zone had no bearing on that. He could have been born in Panama itself and that his citizenship status would not have changed.
Public schools but private university.
Thank you Donald!
I've never heard anyone say that Trump has Alzheimer's.
But did you know that Trump had Alzheimer's for six years? Fred Trump. Donald's father. Developed in his 80s.
Look, that doesn't mean that Donald has it. I'm not saying that Trump has Alzheimer's.
But some people have suggested it. So it's something Trump is going to have to deal with.
If he really wanted to clear the air he would have released all of his medical records by now. Where are the CAT scans? Is he hiding something?
He's a nice guy. I want to help him. But he's terrible. And he probably has Alzheimer's.
This is just petty and vindictive sniping by McCain. He still needs the votes of Cruz supporters to win renomination and reelection this Fall. I don’t see him pushing this all that hard.
Donald J. Trump â€@realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago
.@SenTedCruz Ted—free legal advice on how to pre-empt the Dems on citizen issue. Go to court now & seek Declaratory Judgment—you will win!
Are Trump's lawyers as incompetent as he is?
Trump's lawyers have evidently helped him amass a fortune. So they are not incompetent.
And since Trump hired them, he evidently is not incompetent either.
Have any other illogical attacks in your bag of tricks?
Look, that doesn't mean that Donald rubbed out anyone.
But some people have suggested that he's a crook. So it's something Trump is going to have to deal with.
If he really wanted to clear the air he would have released the records of his dealings with Mafia-run companies. Is he hiding something?
He's a nice guy. I want to help him. You know that the Democrats will bring up his mafia ties. But he's terrible. And he's probably a made man.
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