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Posted on 01/05/2016 7:31:11 PM PST by TigerClaws

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To: wideawake
It's not clear they have working fireplaces.

Yes, the chimney on the building in the picture above is clearly non-functional.

It's our tax dollars. OF COURSE it works.

My best friend in high school assisted with the building of a new Forest Service headquarters, similar to this one, in a similar climate. They didn't spare any expense.

The next year, he used the experience to build his own log place. I peeled red pine for an entire month, so I kind of remember. :)

41 posted on 01/06/2016 7:48:40 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
A Honda EU2000 is 1000 bucks

Yes, but . . .

There's probably a full pig

If so, satellite shows it's not aboveground.

42 posted on 01/06/2016 7:52:33 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
I don't understand why you city folk are so concerned about "the weather".

It gets cold, and it snows. And the snow sticks, and piles up.

That's what it does. These boys didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

43 posted on 01/06/2016 7:52:42 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: wideawake

Thanks for the info.


44 posted on 01/06/2016 7:55:13 AM PST by Girlene
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To: kiryandil
It's our tax dollars. OF COURSE it works.

It looks very nice I agree, but our tax dollars are more often spent on aesthetics than functionality.

It does look old enough to be real, though.

45 posted on 01/06/2016 7:55:28 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
As for the pig - ther's probably no natural gas anywhere near the place, and if they scouted it, a pickup full of 30 pounders is dirt-cheap.

In areas like this, you use propane for the quick heat, and sometimes for lights.

Again, why are you having The Vapors over this?

I couldn't care less. They'll do jest fine.

46 posted on 01/06/2016 7:56:44 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
These boys didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

And yet, they started soliciting food and warm clothing after less than 48 hours.

47 posted on 01/06/2016 7:57:39 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
And yet, they started soliciting food and warm clothing after less than 48 hours.

The Sky is Falling.

48 posted on 01/06/2016 7:58:26 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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ther's probably no natural gas anywhere near the place

They're about 200 miles from the GT North, correct.

and if they scouted it

Great question.

According to one of their two spokesmen, Ammon Bundy, they'd been planning this carefully for a long time.

According to their other spokesman, LaVoy Finicum, it was a spur of the moment decision made right before the protest.

49 posted on 01/06/2016 8:05:08 AM PST by wideawake
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Say - I'll bet that it's some sort of "Federal Offense" to write online comments that don't disparage these guys.

And "Terrorism", too.

You trying to build a case for someone?

"OMIGOD! Did you SEE what he wrote??!!!??"

He wrote that "They'll do jest fine."!!!

Get me the smelling salts, before I call the FBI hotline!

50 posted on 01/06/2016 8:06:13 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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You're deliberately avoiding my point.

Either they are savvy, well-prepared guys who are more than capable of sticking this out, or they are guys who didn't bring enough socks or food to last three days on their own.

They can't be both.

51 posted on 01/06/2016 8:07:33 AM PST by wideawake
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You're deliberately avoiding my point.

Getting The Vapors about ongoing news is a waste of time.

We'll see what's what in the fullness of time.

Make your observation, then a "Told Ya So!" if you were right a couple of weeks from now.

I don't understand what your "cage match" mentality is all about.

I think they'll do just fine. If I'm wrong, rub it in it two weeks.

52 posted on 01/06/2016 8:23:25 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: wideawake
You've been on FR long enough to have learned the lesson of the news:

Wait on it. Don't shoot from the lip. I had to learn it here the hard way, with the Ron Brown dustup back in 97-98.

53 posted on 01/06/2016 8:28:42 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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"...Either they are savvy, well-prepared guys who are more than capable of sticking this out, or they are guys who didn't bring enough socks or food to last three days on their own. They can't be both..."


Those are my same thoughts on this topic.
If planning this type of protest...why not arrive with truckloads of water, food, garments, medicines, and supplies?
One would think people in that area would be adept at planning for difficult weather.

54 posted on 01/06/2016 8:44:02 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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Kiryandil is right: time will tell.

But I think the answer is this:

Some of these guys are probably pretty decent outdoorsmen, and if they had actually planned carefully to stock up on clothing, fuel, and rations they could have lasted for months.

They didn't put together supplies, because they believed that their maneuver would resonate deeply, both at the local and national level.

They thought that the local community would keep them well-supplied with food, fuel and gear at first - and that people would then start coming from all over the US to join them and make common cause with them.

There would be no need to bring provisions, because there would be more donations than they would know what to do with.

They overestimated their popularity.

55 posted on 01/06/2016 8:52:48 AM PST by wideawake
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They didn't put together supplies, because they believed that their maneuver would resonate deeply, both at the local and national level.

They are young.

Youth doesn't always think ahead, & usually has greater hope than a crusty old person like myself.

They may have looked forward to a Bundy Miracle II.

Wonder if farce enlawment is threatening people who want to help, or are they doing a hands-off thing?

Wonder if I'd be bold enough to bring those young fellas something?

56 posted on 01/06/2016 11:33:09 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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Multiple news sources say that the feds are hanging back and watching and that the local sheriff's deputies are letting folks come and go as they please, except that they apparently have to walk in from the perimeter - no searches by the cops, but there are some searches by the Refugees.

Lots of locals, going by snippets of interviews in various sources, seem to be of the opinion that the Hammonds maybe played a little fast and loose but got treated far too harshly by the feds, and that the Refugees aren't really there for the Hammonds but for their own purposes.

57 posted on 01/06/2016 11:52:01 AM PST by wideawake
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