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UNBELIEVABLE Update - Oregon "Bundy Militia" Standoff - The Federal Prosecutor...
CTH ^ | January 4, 2016 | by sundance

Posted on 01/04/2016 3:52:15 PM PST by combat_boots

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To: combat_boots

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161 posted on 01/04/2016 6:36:44 PM PST by piasa
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To: combat_boots

Thanks. By “yes” you mean Obama? How did the gov’t get around that statute of limitations, at least for the 2001 fire?


162 posted on 01/04/2016 6:36:57 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: AuntB

LOL!

Gettin’ old ain’t for sissies. CRS is a problem.

FReegards!


163 posted on 01/04/2016 6:39:17 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: semimojo
You asked about jury nullification. Do you think it's only the tool of constitutionally literate patriots?

It's a tool to be used by educated citizens.

However, the government has seen to it that educated citizens are an endangered species.

In the case of the OJ trial, as I am sure you would agree, the latter was the case.

In the matter of the constitutionality of the case being discussed on this thread, I believe the government has no jurisdiction let alone ability to own land other then described in the Constitution.

Again, you are conflating the issue.

164 posted on 01/04/2016 6:40:25 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Duchess47

You’re welcome.


165 posted on 01/04/2016 6:40:57 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: semimojo

A distinction without a difference.

Check your premise...


166 posted on 01/04/2016 6:41:25 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: combat_boots
Wow, what a battle axe! Women like her are Feminazi Social Justice Warriors. They get power hungry and go after people like this to make them feel better. God forbid she would ask for re-sentencing of the thousands of murderers, rapists, etc. That wouldn't make sense or be just. Totalitarian Marxist!
167 posted on 01/04/2016 6:46:42 PM PST by GunPkrBkr (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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To: combat_boots

The judges, the district attorneys, the solicitor general, the governor and leaders of the state legislature, all had an opportunity to petition Congress and the White House about the draconian nature of these mandates. None of them bothered to participate.

Not all laws are good laws. It is the responsibility for ***all persons of reason*** within and without government to bring such cases to the attention of Congress and the President. A good presentation to the right people can effect change in days. Special Bills can be passed at any time of day and the President can be awakened at any time to sign such bills.

It is a testament to the utter corruption in the federal government that such cases progress to these ends. In any other era, there would never have been such a progression. Such progression would have been deemed a gross waste of time. We have today a federal caste system that serves itself and seeks petty dominion over any subject in its sight. Reason is gone, evaporated into a media space where establishment politicians everywhere condemned this case without bothering to know the facts or to investigate what went wrong and why. If an airliner crashes on US Soil, there is an NTSB investigation that looks into every detail. If rights of fine citizens are grossly violated, there is no investigation and no responsibility to examine the history and facts that led to the injustice. Instead, a petty and asinine position of “it’s the law” is allowed to provide cover for those deep in the corruption.

Victor Hugo’s “Les Miserables” describes well what happens to society when it is led by those that strain at a gnat but swallow a camel. The judge who provided the initial sentencing should have sought immediate conferences with state and federal legislators and executives to bring this to their awareness and the elected leaders should have quickly acted to amend the law so that these gross situations of injustice would never see the light of day.

The corruption is too thick now to hope that elections can change leadership to honor reason and responsibilities to citizens. Elections will change nothing because there are too many ‘Javerts’ to rein in and retrain. We have a generation of awful people in government that cannot be reformed. The only way back to insanity is to scream “WE CAN’T LIVE WITH THIS ANYMORE” and proceed to take a stand, which is what the Bundy’s have done in this case.

But it takes guts, courage to place oneself into the front line of conflict. There are few if any leaders today that have such courage. On the national scale we see such courage in Ted Cruz and Donald Trump, but I predict they will react to scant and incomplete information and provide the expected Pavlovian response. However, I have seen Donald Trump reverse his position when he gets complete facts. I hope people will get the complete facts to him and that he will respond that this case has exceptional circumstances and should be handled accordingly. Even as a candidate he holds enormous influence over today’s political establishment.


168 posted on 01/04/2016 6:55:51 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: MileHi
Great idea! Wow, it's that easy.

Hey, how fat is your wallet? Because FedGov has a never ending supply of lawyers. And you, apparently gleefully, fund them against folks like these.

So then how do we resolve these things? We each pick the blog we want to believe, print their name on our uniforms and grab our guns?

169 posted on 01/04/2016 6:58:36 PM PST by semimojo
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To: dp0622
Do you remember the old Popeye cartoons and the Alice the Goon character? Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwYi5hpkUco

170 posted on 01/04/2016 7:09:19 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
"Their tales of heroism are part of the story of our struggle."

Unbelievable.

171 posted on 01/04/2016 7:10:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: TADSLOS

I know. What we have seen is enough to know that there was a very specific formula used by this administration to select its appointees and it is 100% moonbat political agenda. 0% rule of law or competence in the actual job.


172 posted on 01/04/2016 7:11:32 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: combat_boots

Yeah there is NO WAY that fires in the grasslands out there destroy property in the long run.


173 posted on 01/04/2016 7:12:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: semimojo

Jurys are often not allowed to examine the total context to have Justice prevail.


174 posted on 01/04/2016 7:17:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Mastador1

ROFL!!


175 posted on 01/04/2016 7:37:17 PM PST by dp0622 (i)
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To: semimojo

Semimojo
How many rioters from Ferguson have been sent to jail?


176 posted on 01/04/2016 7:41:03 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: kiryandil

Did you read also that the witness to the “deer poaching” is a mentally and emotionally disturbed young grandson of the family, who was 13 at the time of the alleged poaching, and who has been estranged from his family for some years and royally manipulated by the Feds?


177 posted on 01/04/2016 7:56:50 PM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: Bratch

Excellent post!
Thank you for the research.

I’ve lived in an EXTREMELY “liberal” (more like INSANE) city in Oregon for many decades. The BLM has acted as an arm of the Radical Environmental movement for years out here. Between the BLM, the “Judges” and the Environazis we have suffered enormous economic loss as a state. So, EFF-em!!!


178 posted on 01/04/2016 8:03:34 PM PST by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Baynative

You are kidding, right? I cannot think of a better spokesman for this situation than Ammon Bundy. The man is God-led, for certain. Even tempered, soft-spoken, knows his facts and never stumbles over his words even in front of camera crews. You just be thinking of his father, Cliven, who I really wish had let his son speak for him during the Bundy Ranch situation. You really should go listen to the 20-minute video of Ammon telling his side of this story. It’s over at the Conservative Treehouse or on YouTube.


179 posted on 01/04/2016 8:05:13 PM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: Vehmgericht
How many rioters from Ferguson have been sent to jail?

Don't know about Ferguson but plenty of crack dealers in on mandatory sentences.

180 posted on 01/04/2016 8:09:58 PM PST by semimojo
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