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Obama Set To Implement Gun Control By Executive Order This Week
The Daily Caller ^ | 1/4/2016 | RACHEL STOLTZFOOS

Posted on 01/04/2016 11:36:40 AM PST by Lazamataz

....The proposed executive order would reportedly require anyone who sells more than 50 guns a year to obtain a federal license and conduct background checks on potential buyers. Obama’s aides came up with the idea after Congress rejected legislation to similarly expand background checks to private sellers in 2013.....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrolusing2hand
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The only reason I posted this is that this is the first definitive and exact discussion of what the EO will contain. Note that the rumored number of 25 guns per year is now 50, and further, this requires that the seller get an FFL. That part is actually happy news, as Clinton drastically reduced FFL's during his term. This looks like a 'cheap way' to make it so they MUST grant you an FFL -- and then you conduct NICS checks. He may have made a boo boo here.

There are rumors that an EO will revive the ATF rule change of 1998, where domestic violence misdemeanants may not own firearms under the Prohibited Persons clause of Brady. While this is somewhat already the case, in application the Prohibited Persons clause is generally only used to deny purchase from an FFL, although it does state possession is disallowed. In practicality, there won't be much difference.

There appears to be no attempt to put people on a 'terrorist' list and arbitrarily deny them purchase.

1 posted on 01/04/2016 11:36:40 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: marktwain

Ping your pingees.... who’s the banglist guy, you?


2 posted on 01/04/2016 11:37:40 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Lazamataz

Added banglist to keywords.


3 posted on 01/04/2016 11:40:15 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lazamataz

States: resist and nullify.

States and American People: call for and insist on Obama’s impeachment and conviction for treason and wanton disregard for the Constitution and his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.


4 posted on 01/04/2016 11:40:33 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Lazamataz

Its gonna be a LONG year.


5 posted on 01/04/2016 11:41:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Lazamataz
Obama Set To Implement Gun Control By Executive Order This Week

obama will never control my guns in any way. Neither will anyone else. Abbott has already challenged him to try.
6 posted on 01/04/2016 11:43:44 AM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Lurker

I’m too lazy. (2 year old voice) Will you do it for me?


7 posted on 01/04/2016 11:46:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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Its gonna be a LONG year.

Nah. It will actually be a very short year, ending somewhere in August or September.

8 posted on 01/04/2016 11:47:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz

Americans need to implement Obama/Hillary/Sanders control come NOVEMBER 2016


9 posted on 01/04/2016 11:48:29 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Lazamataz

While it may require an FFL, something tells me that FFL approval procedures might be obfuscated, delayed, lost, misdirected, and otherwise slowed to nothing under this administration’s watch.


10 posted on 01/04/2016 11:50:37 AM PST by alancarp
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To: alancarp
While it may require an FFL, something tells me that FFL approval procedures might be obfuscated, delayed, lost, misdirected, and otherwise slowed to nothing under this administration’s watch.

Then they cannot reasonably ask for the background check. Nothing in the EO can be altered to require a third party check. And then, putting in your paperwork for your FFL will be sufficient defense against a charge.

I think OTrauma just screwed the pooch.

11 posted on 01/04/2016 11:53:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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12 posted on 01/04/2016 11:54:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Lazamataz

The # of individuals who sell more than 50 firearms per year is trivial, which means that this EO is just to mollify some of Obama’s anti-gun base while needlessly stirring up our side against something minor.

Sure, we hate *any* restriction on firearms...hate away...but this EO is far milder than the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban (AWB).

It’s also an easy EO to reverse once we have the White House in 2017.


13 posted on 01/04/2016 11:58:00 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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It’s tiny indeed. It might, however, be a nose under the tent. “Now I have to lower the amount to five.” “Now 3.” “Now 2.”


14 posted on 01/04/2016 12:01:43 PM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz

I dont see how the limit would or could be enforced. Who is keeping track of private sales? No one that I know of in most states. Either youre an FFL or you arent. If you arent then there is little scrutiny beyond what your state requires...if you even bother to comply.


15 posted on 01/04/2016 12:02:35 PM PST by 556x45
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It would have to be by entrapment, only. In fact, there was a leak that the ATF was not too keen on this because there would be nearly no way to enforce.


16 posted on 01/04/2016 12:03:24 PM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly, it would have to be targeted enforcement. I just dont see that happening exc on a VERY limited basis.


17 posted on 01/04/2016 12:08:14 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Lazamataz

my question, as always with this criminal cabal...is “why NOW?”

Why did he wait this long to do this kind of crap? One would think that, if he had ANY meaningful leverage, he would have done it a long time ago...

so...why is he pushing it now?

last ditch effort?
Pandering to the loony base?
sleight of hand? (what else is he up to?)


18 posted on 01/04/2016 12:08:35 PM PST by QualityMan (I will not comply.)
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To: 556x45

From that little one-off quick-mention leak, the ATF is none too happy about this little gambit.


19 posted on 01/04/2016 12:08:58 PM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz
require anyone who sells more than 50 guns a year to obtain a federal license

Ummm.... how would they know?

20 posted on 01/04/2016 12:10:44 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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