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Militiamen, ranchers in showdown for soul of Burns [Oregon ranchers accused of arson]
The Oregonian/OregonLive ^ | 30 Dec 2015 | Les Zaitz

Posted on 12/30/2015 10:30:29 AM PST by amorphous

The strangers carrying the whisper of danger arrived in the vast territory of the Harney Basin just before the holidays.

Ammon Bundy once helped his father repulse the government in an armed showdown on a Nevada desert. He was Tasered for his effort.

Ryan Payne, an electrician from Montana, joined that same standoff and boasted of organizing civilians into sniper squads that drew a bead on federal agents.

And not long ago, Jon Ritzheimer worried the FBI with his threatening rants against Muslims in Arizona and elsewhere.

Now, the men say, they are in Burns to help Dwight and Steven Hammond.

The Hammonds are father and son ranchers, due to report to federal prison on Monday. They were convicted in 2012 of arson for lighting public land on fire adjacent to their ranch land south of Burns. They have been imprisoned once and must return for an additional term after federal appellate judges said they had been illegally sentenced the first time.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ammonbundy; blm; burns; militiamen; ranchers; sedition
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

But that’s not the real story. The real story it seems is the monster corrupt federal government which already owns much of the Western U.S. wants their ranch land too and has harassed them for decades.


21 posted on 12/30/2015 1:28:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: khelus

I read that article and all I saw was a very long list of statists who desperately need to be shot.


22 posted on 12/30/2015 1:40:28 PM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Socon-Econ

Re:Re: Is this really true or just a hit piece by lefty journos.
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It is a hit piece, a major hit piece.
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You could be right. But the caution expressed by some of the comments was intended to be constructive. Unfortunately, there are conservative groups out there with more guts than brains (just as other groups are all brains and no guts).

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Perhaps it would have been wiser for some to have done a tiny bit of research on the history of the dispute. Start Page is your friend.

I posted a link to a relatively concise history of the dispute.

After reading the history and having followed the Bundy ranch incident very closely,I have no doubt that the article is a major hit piece.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 2:06:12 PM PST by khelus
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To: khelus

The MSM is not known for defending or supporting Americans, the Constitution or the rights of individual Americans.


24 posted on 12/30/2015 2:38:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bestrongbpositive

Y’know, MOST of Oregon is conservative!

We in the hinterlands have nothing to do with the Leftist fruitcakes in the Metro areas of Portland, Eugene and Salem.

Most of the rest of the state is loggers, miners, retirees, ranchers and farmers...

Ed


25 posted on 12/30/2015 2:49:57 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: GSWarrior

Yup, ‘cause cowboys dance with the farmer’s daughters and the farmers dance with the rancher’s gals!

Heh heh...thanks for that!

Ed


26 posted on 12/30/2015 2:52:21 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: amorphous

Most Oregonians use Stihl or Husqvarna.


27 posted on 12/30/2015 3:44:41 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: dragnet2

This is all about Agenda 21. Getting the people and domestic livestock off the land so Mother Earth can heal and be left undisturbed. They want all of us plebes eating soylent green and living in a 350 sq ft cube in the Hive.


28 posted on 12/30/2015 4:23:57 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Scirparius
"I'm surprised at the number of FReepers reading this article, or just the snippet of it, and deciding the militiamen are in the wrong".

"Why would you believe a single thing written in any mainstream media outlet whatsoever? Have you not seen the manipulation and outright lies time and time again"?

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My thoughts.

29 posted on 12/30/2015 4:24:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; khelus

If you get a few minutes, read this. These folks have been brutally harassed.

http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/2015/11/facts-events-in-hammond-case.html

Thanks for the link khelus.


30 posted on 12/30/2015 4:42:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yes I read it. Terrible!


31 posted on 12/30/2015 5:24:02 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dragnet2

A keeper. Thank you.


32 posted on 12/30/2015 5:26:51 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: amorphous
The Hammonds don't want to be part of the outsiders' cause, and neither do many in Harney County.

So the people are there to save people who don't want to be saved by them? Then why are they there?

33 posted on 12/30/2015 5:26:57 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Sir_Ed

You are exactly correct!! Not fair to paint all with the same brush. Take those three cities out of Oregon and you would have a very conservative state. My apologies for putting you in that bunch of liberal pukes.


34 posted on 01/03/2016 3:35:11 PM PST by bestrongbpositive
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