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The article is very confusing...but if Francis and his underlings are TRULY rejecting Jesus as the Messiah for both Jew and Gentile, the action is a complete repudiation of the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
1 posted on 12/26/2015 5:55:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well this is the Obama version of a Pope in charge of screwing things up here.


2 posted on 12/26/2015 6:01:53 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.e)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“And the angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to ALL people.”


3 posted on 12/26/2015 6:02:13 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yep. This Pope has truly gone over the deep edge on this one.

I was a practicing Catholic before this guy. I could not however, in good conscience, continue to follow a religion who's head routinely espouses behaviors diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Bible.

4 posted on 12/26/2015 6:03:20 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Inquistion, let's begin
The Inquistion, look out sin
We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew ja Jew ja Jew ja Jews)

We're gonna teach them wrong from right
We're gonna help them see the light
And make an offer that they can't refuse (that the Jews just can't

refuse)


6 posted on 12/26/2015 6:06:58 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So according to Francis we should remove Acts 1:8 from the Bible, right?


7 posted on 12/26/2015 6:10:05 AM PST by Obadiah (Jeb! Because America needs more cowbell.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I am RC. And I deplore prosthelytizing by any religion. My ultimate hatred of prosthelytizing is, of course, directed at the Muzzies who will decapitate you for failure to buy their halal baloney. And this will most likely end in a 21st century Crusade (and soon I hope).


8 posted on 12/26/2015 6:10:16 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yeah, Jesus would have shown political correctness, too, right? /s

Let’s restrain ourselves from sharing God’s Love and withhold the Living Word and Water from God’s chosen people! /s

HF

And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)


10 posted on 12/26/2015 6:13:18 AM PST by holden
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here's a related thread from a while back (12/16/15 article discusses NYT story.)
16 posted on 12/26/2015 6:32:22 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It depends on what is meant by “try”.Neither Jews nor Christians should *force* the other to convert.That’s pretty obvious.But friendly persuasion....


17 posted on 12/26/2015 6:33:50 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Jews are in need of Jesus as much as anyone else.

If the Vatican is saying otherwise it is preaching ‘another Gospel.’

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Timnthy 2:5

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! Galatians 1:8


20 posted on 12/26/2015 6:35:24 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: SoFloFreeper

What does this poseur “pope” know about Christianity?


22 posted on 12/26/2015 6:36:38 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: SoFloFreeper
I don't think the Vatican document referenced here actually says that Catholics shouldn't seek to convert Jews. That "interpretation" came from an article on the subject in the New York Times (no surprise).

The basic point of the Vatican document was that Catholic proselytization of the Jews should be no different than Catholic proselytization of any other religious group.

24 posted on 12/26/2015 6:49:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why shouldn’t we try to convert the apostates in the Vatican?


34 posted on 12/26/2015 7:39:39 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: SoFloFreeper
The article is confusing indeed. I would recommend reading the original source document that is linked in the article. I will warn, the original source is long and typical of theological documents, straddles many sides of the fence.

The Statement makes a logical argument.

"The covenant that God has offered Israel is irrevocable...

Since God has never revoked his covenant with his people Israel, there cannot be different paths or approaches to God's salvation.

This is an interesting point to consider, but ponders other questions. Should Christian not convert Jews willing to accept Jesus? Does Paul's warning for believers not to marry non believer not apply to Jews? Does this apply to Jews that have studied the new testament and rejected Christ or only to Jews ignorant to who Jesus is and his claims.

35 posted on 12/26/2015 8:18:35 AM PST by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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