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How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process [The Bloody obvious stated in gun grabber plan]
12/24/2015 | Vanity of sorts

Posted on 12/24/2015 8:55:25 AM PST by Torcert

In the extensive research on what the national socialist left has recently said about gun confiscation, banning guns or repealing the second amendment, I came across several fevered screeds from our comrades over at the Dailykos:

In the first article they state what should bloody obvious to everyone in outlining their plans to Confiscate Guns:
How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process
By sporks
Friday Dec 21, 2012 3:20 AM PST
Alternative Link to the article:
http://www.trapshooters.com/threads/the-mentality-we-are-up-against.175365/

This is just an short excerpt of the article, but it should be enough to confirm what we have known to be the case all along:

The very first thing we need is national registry. We need to know where the guns are, and who has them We need to make this as easy as possible for gun owners.

Along with this, make private sales illegal. When a firearm is transferred, make it law that the registration must be updated
Additionally, new guns are to be registered by the manufacturer.

We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible.

Now we get down to it. The registration period has passed. Now we have criminals without registered guns running around. Probably kooky types that 'lost' them on a boat or something. So remember those ATF form 4473s? Those record every firearm sale, going back twenty years.

So, we get those logbooks, and cross reference the names and addresses with the new national registry

Now, maybe he sold them or they got lost or something. But it gives us a good target for investigation. A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted. This exercise isn't so much to track down every gun ever sold; the main idea would be to profile and investigate people that may not have registered their guns.

I'm concerned that other guy who bought a half dozen assault weapons, registered two hunting rifles, and belongs to the NRA/GOA. He's the guy who warrants a raid.

So registration is the first step. Now that the vast majority are registered, we can do what we will. One good first step would be to close the registry to new registrations.

We should also insist on comprehensive insurance and mandatory gun safes, subject to random, spot checks by local and federal law enforcement.

Finally there is another screed that was spewed forth only recently laying out the authors fevered imagination on how 'A National Semi-Auto Ban' would take place:

Effective Gun Control - A National Semi-Auto Ban
Monday Oct 05, 2015 Dailykos
Alternative Link to the article:
http://newsvader.com/id/15420996770

This textual diarrhea of the mind virtually lays out a similar plan as outlined above and semi-worthwhile reading if one wants to peek inside the mind of a totalitarian leftist (sorry to be redundant there). If someone wants to they can read an excerpt it as well, you'll be a better (Wo)man than me for the effort.

The bottom line here is that we have already have proof of what should be obvious from the start:

That Registration and the control over your private property is merely a stepping stone to the government's stealing of that property.


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Final points:
1. Obama and his Comrades in the national socialist left (including Comrade Clinton) have been acting lawlessly for years now, so why should the 'little people' have to do the same?

2. The Feral Government does not have the authority to control the people's private property with Intergalactic Background Checks.

3. It should be clear by now that the national socialist left desperately wants to ban and confiscate guns.

4. As outlined by their own words, national socialist left wants to use Intergalactic Background Checks and registration to set up for their ultimate goal.

5. Patriots should NOT acquiesce to either knowing the ultimate outcome of the exercise.

1 posted on 12/24/2015 8:55:25 AM PST by Torcert
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To: Torcert
Step 1) Get guns off the streets of Chicago.

Step 2) Wait a bazzillion years for that to happen.

2 posted on 12/24/2015 8:59:41 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Torcert
CHOKE 2
3 posted on 12/24/2015 9:00:43 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Torcert

The media (of course) is on it, too. When there is a shooting in a home, protecting it, that is, I notice more and more that they show a satellite map of exactly where that home is.


4 posted on 12/24/2015 9:03:14 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Torcert
A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted.

You really, really don't want to start down that path. However, if you think you do, go ahead.

5 posted on 12/24/2015 9:03:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SkyDancer

That national socialist left loves to parrot the ‘surrounding areas’ excuse on that situation amongst others.

Problem is, they cannot explain why those ‘surrounding areas’ don’t have a worse problem with guns to contend with.

Clearly gun control does not work.... Just like Socialism.. and they go hand in hand....


6 posted on 12/24/2015 9:05:25 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just take a look at the second article I referenced - the author let’s his authoritarian fantasy’s run wild with calling out the troops for a good old fashioned war in the streets... with somehow all of LE and the military siding with the Socialists.


7 posted on 12/24/2015 9:10:26 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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The problem with any gun-grabbing strategy is that it isn’t working by any objective measure. It’s actually beyond that. As time goes on, it’s actually working in reverse ... as more and more people buy more and more guns and ammunition to protect themselves from a government that is incompetent at best and malevolent at worst.


8 posted on 12/24/2015 9:10:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Torcert

Members of firearm confiscation squads had better be willing to die doing their job or it just won’t work.


9 posted on 12/24/2015 9:11:01 AM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Torcert
Liberals want to ban guns for multiple reasons.

One of them is the simple fact that they just cannot stand it when others hold beliefs different than theirs or think or act differently then they do.

They are all for diversity as long as others do not live or act in ways that that do not meet with their approval.


10 posted on 12/24/2015 9:14:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Torcert

Take my GUN’S?

I Sill have My Blacksmith forged Tri-Angular Bits. The Crossbow has a 150# pull Weight..


11 posted on 12/24/2015 9:16:53 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: dainbramaged
Members of firearm confiscation squads had better be willing to die doing their job or it just won't work.

"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

-- John Steinbeck


12 posted on 12/24/2015 9:19:37 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Torcert

Nothing new. Nelson “Pete” Shields spelled it out back in 1976.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the POSSESSION of all HANDGUNS and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — TOTALLY ILLEGAL.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.


13 posted on 12/24/2015 9:21:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

They ignore the law of unintended consequences at their own peril.


14 posted on 12/24/2015 9:23:14 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. � Robert Heinlein)
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To: Torcert
A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted.

A few of those "nice" visits may wind up with a few missing ATF agents. I'm thinking they could wind up being tractor food on a very large ranch.

But hey guys, take your chances.

15 posted on 12/24/2015 9:24:00 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Torcert
We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible.

HOW VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE WILL WORK

The Libtards are always going on about our "voluntary" income tax system.

People "volunteer" to pay federal income tax because we are threatened with financial ruin and prison if we don't.

The Feral Goovernment's "voluntary compliance" with gun laws works the same way.

How many shooters would have suppressors or sawed off shotguns if we weren't threatened with prosecution, fines and prison or fearful of assassination by the FBI or ATF like Vicki and Samuel Weaver at Ruby Ridge?


16 posted on 12/24/2015 9:28:56 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: SkyDancer

Step 1) Get guns off the streets of Chicago.
Step 2) Wait a bazzillion years for that to happen.

Problem...the socialists want high gun deaths and destruction...better to take guns from Honest Law abiding American Citizens.

(take away the high gun death rates from Democratic Party controlled cities and we have a very low number of gun deaths for our Nation.)


17 posted on 12/24/2015 9:28:57 AM PST by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: Torcert

These people are just evil and just puppets for the New World Order.


18 posted on 12/24/2015 9:29:25 AM PST by Vic S
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To: Torcert

Gun owners and support for the 2nd amendment are really the only things preventing the Feds from going totally fascist.

If confiscation does come about, I doubt we will have any lengthy political process that gives gun owners time to plan, organize and resist. What seems likely is a national crisis such as WW3, or catastrophic economic collapse that overshadows the gun issue in the eyes of the general public so that gun confiscation is seen as a necessity in a greater effort.

That’s why individuals and small groups need to plan now. We need to think about group storage, communications, alternate identities, safe houses, rally points.

They won’t come for the guns; they will come for the gun owners.


19 posted on 12/24/2015 9:36:08 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: Torcert

Steph Curry is going to air an anti gun commercial during the NBA game tomorrow. Funded by former NYC mayor. as per Fox News


20 posted on 12/24/2015 9:40:49 AM PST by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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