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Steep new penalties for Americans who don't enroll in Obamacare (Pelosi knew)
Fiscal Times via MSN ^ | 12/10/15 | Eric Pianin

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:17:48 AM PST by Libloather

After two years of genteel coaxing of millions of Americans to sign up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, the Obama administration has begun to turn up the heat with the threat of a sharp increase in tax penalties and other sanctions.

While many people found it far less expensive to pay a penalty than to enroll in a new government-subsidized health care plan, they will be in for a rude awakening if they try that again. In fact, in some ways it will be cheaper to purchase one of the more modest insurance plans than to pay the penalty.

For individuals who went without insurance in early 2015 although they were eligible to enroll, the average household penalty in 2016 will be $969 - a 47 percent increase over the average estimated penalty of $661 this year, according to a new analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation. People who are eligible for federal premium subsidies will have to pay an average household penalty of $738 in 2016 if they don't sign up, while the average household penalty will total $1,450 for uninsured people who are not eligible for any financial assistance.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: husseincare; obamacare; pelosi; penalty
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To: headstamp 2

And GROWING the parisitic class


21 posted on 12/11/2015 11:41:48 AM PST by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Yup - the Uniparty fully funded SCOTUSCARE, Obie's illegal amnesty, AND gave Obumbler's tyrannical administration a blank check to raise the debt ceiling as far as he needs to complete the destruction of the nation that you and I grew up in. The voters be damned. All he remembers is that America voted for FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION and when reminded that 2010 and subsequent elections sent Repubs to the Congress to stop him he responds that "I represent all of those voters who didn't vote in those elections and so full speed ahead" (I am paraphrasing)



22 posted on 12/11/2015 11:49:38 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Libloather

How do you fine someone that has no job, no property, no assets and is spongeing off society?
That person can still get treatment a hospitals.
Martin County, Florida.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/25/us/hospitals-feeling-strain-from-illegal-immigrants.html?pagewanted=all


23 posted on 12/11/2015 11:49:41 AM PST by GOYAKLA ( Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty!)
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To: super7man
pay $14,000 in premiums with a $6,000 deductible
Is that a $6000 deductible or a $6000 out-of-pocket maximum?
24 posted on 12/11/2015 11:56:47 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Libloather

And those who voted for the scoundrels. And I hope that the people who wanted this monstrosity suffer great pain and that the IRS comes after them with a vengeance after they have refused to pay years of the penalty.

I believe that whatever outstanding debt to the IRS is rolled over to the next year and accumulates.


25 posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:48 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Secret Agent Man

But doesn’t the penalty roll over to the next year? Plus interest and penalties?

If true, the amount owed after just a few years could be massive.


26 posted on 12/11/2015 11:59:33 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: super7man

Exactly the problem.

Although since you have insurance, your medical bills are negotiated down by the insurance company. Still, $14,000 would buy a lot of trips to the doctor.


27 posted on 12/11/2015 12:01:44 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: GOYAKLA

But Obamacare was supposed to solve this problem! We were promised! /sarc


28 posted on 12/11/2015 12:02:41 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Libloather

Let the feasting on the sheep begin...


29 posted on 12/11/2015 12:09:39 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: dhs12345

Maybe but unless you have a refund coming they cannot collect it.


30 posted on 12/11/2015 12:20:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The great news is that it comes out of their UNearned income tax credits!!! That is so wonderful!!


31 posted on 12/11/2015 12:23:16 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

I don’t know about that. All £ know is that whatever refund you have coming, however you get a refund, that’s the only place fedgov can go to take money to pay your fine.


32 posted on 12/11/2015 12:26:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Libloather

Wait, what??? I thought 0CommieCare was on it’s deathbed.

Of course not...the DC cesspool trough suckers will prop this monstrosity up, any way they can.


33 posted on 12/11/2015 12:28:14 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Most people who don’t have health insurance are on low income. They get a transfer of wealth even though they don’t earn it from other taxpayers. It is called the “Earned income credit” That is an oxymoron. But since that is an amount they get from the government, Obama will get his massive “ no insurance” penalties from that credit!! It is the law of unintended consequences!! We get the money back!! YAAAAHHHHOOOOO . And they are still uninsured!!


34 posted on 12/11/2015 12:31:27 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: WENDLE

And he can still blame it all on his enemies.


35 posted on 12/11/2015 12:37:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

“The freeloaders who voted him in thought that they would be able to simply walk into the hospital and get free care without having to do anything.”

One woman who worked in a hospital (I think as a nurse) called in to the rush limbaugh show. She said the very day after obama signed obamacare, two ladies walked into their emergency room looking for treatment. When asked what insurance they had, one of the ladies said only one word: “Obama”. When asked again what insurance they had, came back the same one word response: “Obama”.


36 posted on 12/11/2015 12:58:24 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Libloather

I will not comply.


37 posted on 12/11/2015 2:25:18 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: oh8eleven

The deductable is $6000 the max out of pocket is $6250.
Go figure.


38 posted on 12/11/2015 4:50:15 PM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting , knitting, always knitting.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
So, suppose a person doesn't pay the penalty for years and years. Won't it accumulate to the point where a person might owe thousands of dollars to the IRS?

In a way, I am looking forward to next year. That is when the “stupid people” who supported this thing will start feeling the pain. About May/June is when many people get (or won't get) their refunds. It will be a good time to remind them who forced Obamacare on everyone. THE DEMOCRATS!

39 posted on 12/12/2015 6:23:55 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

It may accumulate. The debt is not owed to the IRS, IRS is just the collection vehicle, and if you never have money coming back from a tax return they cannot go fter anything else to collect it.


40 posted on 12/12/2015 8:25:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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