Posted on 12/07/2015 5:20:51 AM PST by Kaslin
Even this won't work. With a simple lathe/mill machine, or plans and a 3D printer, I can make a firearm in my garage. Unless you can un-invent guns, confiscation will only effect the law abiding.
“””””A Reasonable Conversation About Guns?””””””
Sure, my family has one about once a week over the dinner table or family BBQ.
“Bought any new weapons lately?”
“Are you still reloading? Cause I need some 30-06.”
“I bagged a medium sized buck yesterday... we gonna have a deer sausage breakfast next Sunday... ya’ll coming?”
“Have you seen the new Kimber? oh man...”
“We still going hunting Christams morning?... cause I got a new 300blackout... wait till you see it.”
We have conversations about guns all the time.
Not possible. There is no common ground between the two sides to converse on.
You shouldn’t have.
We need to control the conversation. Fat chance, I know. But to just give up and let the liberals get away with their lies is not very constructive.
the guy who taught my CCW class a retired LEO, said the exact same thing.
either NO one has them... i.e. the elitists, bozo bodyguards, etc....or EVERYONE has them.
The 21st. century Democrat Party has gone Full Alinsky.
It is impossible to have a reasonable conversation with them about ANYTHING.
The “conversation” was over a long time ago when the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (2nd amendment) were passed and ratified.
Or in the terminology of the left...”it’s settled law”.
After the liberals agree to “reasonable” limits on abortion.
This will help establish their definition of “reasonable”.
Aren’t they always attempting to demonstrate how severe conservatives are, because we won’t consider cases of rape and incest?
Let’s ask them to change the law to ONLY cases of rape and incest and see if they sign up.
We are winning all the arguments about Gun Rights.
No surrender.
No negotiation.
On to victory!
I stopped reading because of the implicit assumption that Liberals are reasonable.
They are not.
As such, the idea that one can have a reasonable conversation with a Liberal about anything is a time-wasting fantasy.
Reasonable? Reasonable would be about the need to encourage cReying and ending gun free zones, also fostering more training since training is part of the exercise of the right in the 2nd amendment.
That reasonable? Or the other way reasonable? ie smart guns dispensing people from training, ban on semi autos that would prevent grandma from access to firearms etc?
What do these idiots define as reasonable, using the liberal rhetoric?
Wouldn’t it be reasonable to ask Obama why he armed cartels with stolen guns while insisting at the UN to keep Mexicans disarmed and murdered?
No, I guess this is not reasonable to question the powers, as it is not reasonable to ask whether Obama is blackmailing the ATF for having participated in genocide or other RINOs like McCain for arming thugs in Syria...
That is what would be reasonable subjects to broach before going on “reasonable” gun legislation
This is getting old.
STOP IT!!!
Bingo. Liberals are predatorial trolls. They never comment on the subject, always commenting and attacking the commenter, sidetracking the conversation, because liberals are:
1. idiots who hate the subject of conversation that makes them uncomfortable or look stupid (hence like immature school thugs they say the teacher is crazy instead of doing the essay) (Kerry’s right to be stupid)
2. they are conversational predators, waiting for anyone to say something to pounce on them, making it impossible to discuss the predatorial of Planned Parenthood they love , for instance
3. they are cowards going after the owner of the firearm and car, ticketing them, instead of going after the criminal who stole either to commit crimes with.
What is fracking reasonable in saying Global warming causes terror!?
It is ridiculous.
Liberals need to be educated, not debated
Just to make sure
It seems to me the ‘disconnect’ on the 2nd revolves around what you said. Its really not law or something that can be changed. The BOR is a statement that these things are beyond law and given to every man by God not govt. The govt has no recourse but to recognize them. If the govt refuses then the people also have the right to dissolve the govt and start again.
Excellent point, which the “progressives” will never get
Yep - many of us grew up in better times - when life was considered a precious commodity and our Dads often worked with school teachers to help with firearm safety classes. My Dad got with my shop teacher and they put together a fine class - complete with a series of NRA safety films (with graphic pics of what happened to folks who did stupid things) and which included dry-firing/sighting. Even had a few field trips to a local range which brought out a number of other parents (mainly Dads at the time). No causalities and I have never forgotten the lessons learned.
1. "Voluntary" surrender of guns will not happen in the United States. Compliance with New York's "SAFE" Act is negligible; we won't even register our guns when an unjust and unconstitutional law demands it.
2. A "robust" confiscation effort by law enforcement is likely to lead to a whole lot of ugly outcomes. I am strongly pro-police, for the most part. When it comes to those (hopefully few) police who become complicit in an effort to trample the Second Amendment, that will change completely. I have no sympathy for jackbooted thugs, which is how I would view any so-called American who participates in an inherently evil policy of disarming law-abiding Americans. The police are supposed to be there to protect and defend decent people, not to impose the will of the self-declared ruling class on real Americans.
The author is an ass.
A total ban would NOT reduce gun crime - because the criminals (like in Chicago) would never comply. Only the law abiding will suffer.
And the author appears to completely ignore the overwhelming history of incrementalism exhibited by the left. Because they have used this technique for so long, it is idiotic to cede even an inch in an existential argument over a fundamental right - one granted by God, and acknowledged (I one would have said ‘guaranteed’) by the constitution.
The left controls the schools, where self-responsibility is now forbidden. They control the media, where sensationalism rules. And they desperately want to control the ‘conversation’ on guns, using shout-down tactics, among more subversive options.
No, the author is an ass, and the website that published this owes 2nd amendment supporters a huge apology and retraction.
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