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To: Elsie

“Upon what data are you basing your assertion?”

The Book of Genisis. The sun was created on the third day.

My point is two-fold —

1. God does not measure time the way we do. To Him ‘night’ and ‘day’ and other such words can mean different things besides earth’s solar cycles.

2. A literal interpretation of the oral tradition called Genisis is flawed.

Here’s an example, Noah’s Arc explained by ‘Dan the Man’ ...

https://answers.yahoo.com/activity/questions?show=BAZJUWDTWEDDACUA6EZHPEHENI&t=g

Noah’s flood wasn’t worldwide, it was local. The Hebrew word translated earth “erets” in the flood account can also be translated land. As a matter of fact “erets” is translated “land” 1,476 times in the OT to refer to a limited geographical area. So, when Genesis says, “all the earth was flooded,” it was really, “all the land was flooded.” It was a reference to his civilization.

Other references in Genesis also show that “erets” was used to show specific lands: “The whole land [erets] of Havilah,” “the whole land [erets] of Ethiopia,” “the land [erets] of Nod, on the east of Eden”, Famine at the time of Joseph affected “all lands [erets]”,etc. Also during the plagues upon Egypt, at one point we read that “the rain was not poured upon the earth [erets]” (Ex. 9:33). Do the word study. Try put the word “land” instead of global “earth” and it may make more sense. I believe some Bible translations are misleading.
1. Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

Also, scripture doesn’t say the ark rested on Mt. Ararat, it says “mountains of Ararat.” That mountain chain peters out into rolling hills in the Euphrates Basin.

According to achealogists digging in the Euphrates basin, they discovered a massive flood covered 40,000 sq. miles of that region at the time of the biblical flood. They discovered a thick layer fresh water laid sediment with completely different civilizations above and below.

The Flood of Genesis was a true historical event. According to historians, and Bible scholars, the date was from November in the year 2345 to November 2344 BC. These dates fall smack in the middle of the period in history known as the BRONZE AGE. (3000 BC to 1200 BC) This was a significant period in history.

Written records dating from this time are, of course, not too plentiful. But one cannot deny the existence of archeological evidence that many great civilizations existed in various parts of the world at the time of the Flood and continued through it. If the Noah’s flood had been universal, all civilizations would have been destroyed along with their inventions, language, art and whatever other advancement each unique civilization would have made. History does not reveal gaps or a large void in any of these cultures which would be the natural result of a catastrophic event such as a global flood.
1. Earliest written records of an advanced civilization are those of the Sumerians in Mesopotamia. Their King Lists date to about 3350 BC. This shows an ongoing civilization well through the period of the flood.
Egypt’s history shows no record of a sudden, complete disruption by a great deluge. The pyramids and other monuments erected there before the time of the flood would surely have been destroyed (or at the very least) badly damaged my a universal flood.
China’s civilization experienced a prosperous period during the Yao Dynasty (between 2400 - 2200) with no record of a cataclysmic interruption.
The Minoan civilization on the island of Crete entered a cycle of cultural advancement about 2500 BC. These people had already produced works of art, established cities, had an alphabet and made use of bronze prior to the date of the Flood. It continued to develop and was established as a center of trade until is was destroyed by a volcano in 1470 BC. Though this civilization was based on and island, there was no evidence of a flood in written or archeological evidence.
The civilization of the Indus Valley was a thriving state in 2500 BC. It boasted of two great cities harappa and Mohenjo-Daro. This civilization rivaled that of Egypt and Mesopotamia and continued to exist uninterrupted until 1500 BC.
More evidence is found in Phoenicia. This was a thriving trade center which existed before, during and after the flood.
These along with other groups, the Japanese, the American Indians, and the ***** tribes of Africa, all survived the period of the Flood. There is no evidence that any of these millions of people suddenly disappeared from history and then suddenly re-appeared all over the world carrying the same culture, art, language, writing and architectural designs — unique to each civilization.
The real tragedy is, when fundamentalists try to make history conform to their false notions about the Bible, it makes both them and God’s Word seem foolish and unrealistic. — Dan the Man

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105 posted on 12/10/2015 5:10:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC's 2012 Convention actually 'booed' God three times.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
My point is two-fold --

1. God does not measure time the way we do. To Him 'night' and 'day' and other such words can mean different things besides earth's solar cycles.

2. A literal interpretation of the oral tradition called Genisis is flawed.

Points taken; but...


1. The book is written for humans and THEIR understanding. What things 'can mean' is specious at best.

2. You'll have to be more clear here. Rambling on about what something or someone else said in another context holds very little water.

108 posted on 12/10/2015 8:52:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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