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Climate skepticism is just bad science: "There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory.."
Salon ^ | December 5, 2015 | Michael Shermer

Posted on 12/06/2015 1:40:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Vaquero
.... State Of Fear by Dr Michael Crichton.

Excellent work by Crichton.

The idea and plan is to keep people in a constant "state of fear."

41 posted on 12/06/2015 4:03:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Mankind will be the death of planet Earth; but not from AGW. In mankind’s headlong rush into things it knows nothing about, nature will be messed up so much that, if left to its own devices, will leave the planet a scorched ball of - nothing.

Their goal is to reduce CO2 to some “acceptable” level. That decrease, however, means that fewer plants will survive to produce O2. Less O2 = people die. Less CO2 also means ozone layer breaks down, allowing radiation to get through. More temperature increase ......


42 posted on 12/06/2015 4:07:22 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Cincinatus

Thank you for this. It is an excellent and well thought out response.

I hope you won’t mind if I pass this along to others, with proper accreditation of course.


43 posted on 12/06/2015 4:11:44 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: Politicalkiddo
So because there isn’t, as they claim, a sufficient alternate theory, their poorly sculpted and botched theory has to be right by default? That’s not scientific.

Hey, it worked for Darwinian Evolution!

44 posted on 12/06/2015 4:18:48 AM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Excellent work by Crichton.

I LOVED his lecture on the Drake Equation! ;)

45 posted on 12/06/2015 4:22:31 AM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m sure it was partially in homage to Mencken.

“...the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

- H. L. Mencken


46 posted on 12/06/2015 4:27:43 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

In a nutshell!


47 posted on 12/06/2015 4:29:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Billthedrill; Cincinatus' Wife; Cincinatus; Politicalkiddo; Gaffer; Arthur Wildfire! March; ...

The "If you don't give me an alternative [that I, as a final arbiter, can decide not to accept as valid]" straw man argument has been often used by Obama and is now widely adopted by liberal/progressive/socialist/Democratic disciples as a way to brand the opponents as "deniers" and thus avoid the real arguments against their position. If you have more than one alternative explanation, then you are also inconsistent and incohesive (because there can be only one explanation — their theory) and thereby all the other arguments are "deemed" invalid.

Or, as former CEO of Netscape Jim Barksdale said, ""If we have data, let's look at data. If all we have are opinions, let's go with mine."

48 posted on 12/06/2015 4:32:09 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Which is why it is impossible to debate a liberal (progressive). They get to determine what you mean.


49 posted on 12/06/2015 4:40:20 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

....or alternatively, the “days” of Genesis are not a contradiction to the 16 billion years or whatever it is...since time is in face NOT A CONSTANT in our universe.

Time not being a constant is one of the mind blowing concepts from Relativity.


50 posted on 12/06/2015 4:46:20 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here’s the alternative, except it isn’t a theory. It’s the observed fact: There has been no global warming since 1994.


51 posted on 12/06/2015 4:49:24 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

when they changed the name to climate change they became global warming skeptics and deniers


52 posted on 12/06/2015 4:50:03 AM PST by BRL
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory to human-caused global warming"

There most certainly is and there is ample empirical data to support it: interglacial age, a warming period between ice ages. There are bigger forces controlling the earths climate than a bunch of bipeds burning fossil fuels emitting CO2. Man's contribution to the climate is so small as to be within the margin of error. Solar activity and precession of the equinoxes are the two biggest factors in global climate change but, politicians and snake oil salesmen can't make a nickel on these factors.

53 posted on 12/06/2015 4:55:08 AM PST by cowboyway (Returning the federal government to its constitutional limits is a Lost Cause.)
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To: CutePuppy; All

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/262225-sanders-climate-change-poses-major-national-security-threat

[Dec 5, 2015] Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says climate change poses “major” national security threat to the U.S.

“I mean, we’re talking about, according to the CIA, future, major national security issues when people are forced to migrate because their countries or their land are flooded, they can’t grow food,” Sanders said at a rally in Keene, N.H., on Saturday. “We’re talking about a major, major crisis.”

The Vermont senator said there is no longer any debate among scientists on what causes climate change and what its consequences will be.

“The debate is over. Climate change is real, it is caused by human activity, and it is already causing profound disturbances all over America and all over the world,” he said.

Sanders slammed the Republican Party for “rejecting science” on the issue of climate change.

“Somehow on this issue of climate change, an entire, major political party is rejecting science, and that is a very dangerous thing to do,” he said.

He accused Republicans of being beholden to special interests in the fossil fuel lobby.

Sanders’ remarks come amid the COP21 climate change talks in Paris, which President Obama attended earlier this week.

World leaders reached an agreement on a tentative carbon emissions reduction deal Saturday.”

http://time.com/4128624/hillary-clinton-climate-change/

Hillary: “........As President, I will protect and build on the progress President Obama has made at home. I will set ambitious goals-to see 500 million solar panels installed within four years and enough renewable electricity to power every home in America within 10 years. I’ll also pursue a new North American Climate Compact, because the United States, Canada and Mexico should work together to build a clean energy future for our continent.

And the Republican deniers, defeatists and obstructionists should know-their cynical efforts will fail. Not only are they on the wrong side of science and of history, they are increasingly on the wrong side of their own voters, as a majority of Republicans accept the science of climate change, and support solutions like clean energy.

We must reject the false choice between combating climate change and fostering strong economic growth. If any country can prove that, it’s the United States. Under President Obama, we’re leading the world in the fight against climate change. I won’t let anyone to take us backward, deny our economy the benefits of harnessing a clean energy future, or force our children to endure the catastrophe that would result from unchecked climate change.

Once again, the world looks to Paris-this time in hope. Global challenges demand global solutions. The fight against climate change will be long. It will take the efforts of every country, every industry, and every community. It will take the leadership of every President. But at last-in Paris-the framework of a lasting solution is within reach. We must seize this moment. - Hillary Clinton [Nov 29, 2015]


54 posted on 12/06/2015 4:56:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Billthedrill

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


55 posted on 12/06/2015 5:07:50 AM PST by abclily
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Shermer knows less about real science than my cat. (His education is in theology, psychology, and history.) All REAL scientists are skeptics. REAL science is never settled. It's not up to the skeptics to prove a theory is wrong, it's up to the REAL scientist to demonstrate that it's right. That's done by experiments, data, and analyses, all open and freely available to the always skeptical scientific community.

The CAGW Cult (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming Cult) hides their experiments and results, even to the point of illegally refusing to honor FOIA requests for data from publically supported projects.

I am a "skeptic". I challenge Shermer and the rest of his cult: "The recent 18 year pause in global temperature increases, as perfectly demonstrated by the RSS satellite temperature, data PROVES the CAGW theory is WRONG." You defend your theory using REAL data and results. This psychobabble you wrote here doesn't demonstrate a thing other than that you are not a scientist.

56 posted on 12/06/2015 5:14:08 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The AMA says that AGW is real. Which is proof that the whole thing is just political.


57 posted on 12/06/2015 5:14:28 AM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory to human-caused global warming"

Of COURSE not!

But there are FACTS in the geological record that PROVE these temperature swings are a CONSTANT throughout Earth's history BEFORE MAN appeared on the scene.


Trying to blame it on him now is just STUPID!!!

...or EVIL!

58 posted on 12/06/2015 5:25:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus
Correlation does not equal causation.

Do NOT use such BIG words on the low info crowd.

59 posted on 12/06/2015 5:27:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus
You DID; however; pick the RIGHT word in SCREECHING!!!
60 posted on 12/06/2015 5:28:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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