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Cruz flips vote on ag issue critical for Iowa
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ted-cruz-flips-vote-crop-insurance-cuts-216432 ^

Posted on 12/04/2015 12:21:04 PM PST by springwater13

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To: conservativejoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toZgg8s2pR0

The above youtube is Cruz in Sept. explaining his views on crop insurance. He is for the insurance, but says the gov’t shouldn’t be involved (or less involved). He also brings up how the largest agri-businnesses uses 70+% of the insurance. In that bill the insurance was in with increased subsidies for welfare - so Cruz voted against that bill.


41 posted on 12/04/2015 1:44:19 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: conservativejoy

Hmm, and here all along I thought the individual citizen was the cornerstone of our society. Guess I was wrong.

Obamacare for citizens wrong.

Government care for farmers, oh it’s swell.

You know darn well that if Trump were the guy we are talking about here, you’d be using words like “statist”, “big government”, “socialist”...


42 posted on 12/04/2015 1:48:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Come on Obama, just fess up and put the Burka on. Be honest with everyone.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump supports subsidies and increased mandates for ethanol. If he was a Senator from an agricultural state, I would expect him to vote as Cruz, Rubio, and Rand Paul all did for crop insurance.


43 posted on 12/04/2015 1:52:52 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

LOL, nice evasion.

I’ve see your posting tactics, so don’t be coy with me.


44 posted on 12/04/2015 1:56:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Come on Obama, just fess up and put the Burka on. Be honest with everyone.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Facts are facts, not tactics.


45 posted on 12/04/2015 2:01:51 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

Ah hugh...


46 posted on 12/04/2015 2:07:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Come on Obama, just fess up and put the Burka on. Be honest with everyone.)
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To: conservativejoy

Yup, we should give $1,000,000 taxpayer dollars for every vote a presidential candidate might need. Great idea!


47 posted on 12/04/2015 2:12:19 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: conservativejoy

-— Disaster insurance is the only thing that stands between farmers and the loss of their farms and livelihoods when nature hits hard. -—

Is this impossible to get in the marketplace? If not, then it’s a mistake, but not as bad as supporting ethanol subsidies.


48 posted on 12/04/2015 2:18:42 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SC_Pete

Actually we do have term limits. They are called elections. Unfortunately, the incumbent has a major advantage 90% of the time.


49 posted on 12/04/2015 2:21:20 PM PST by tenger (Friends don't let friends eat lutefisk.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Crop insurance is a joint venture between the private sector and government subsidies. It is less expensive for ag programs to buy the insurance than it is for them to pick up the tab when an entire region is wiped out by a natural disaster.

A stable agricultural sector is absolutely vital to any nation. Without that, there is no national security.

That is the difference between subsidizing crop production that should be market driven, and protecting the greatest food producing resource in the world from the destabilization of natural disasters.


50 posted on 12/04/2015 2:26:09 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: tenger

Elections don’t work because the corruption promotes special interests over the common good. Corrupt incumbents get re-elected over and over again. There is more turnover in the British House of Lords than the US Congress.


51 posted on 12/04/2015 2:35:31 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: conservativejoy

OK This is all new to me.


52 posted on 12/04/2015 2:46:11 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: springwater13

Another he was against it before he was for it?


53 posted on 12/04/2015 2:53:24 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: conservativejoy

And Texas just had a nasty year for farmers. :(


54 posted on 12/04/2015 2:53:27 PM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: brothers4thID

“And Texas just had a nasty year for farmers. :(”

Yes they did. Folks forget sometimes that Ted Cruz is accountable to the good people of Texas.


55 posted on 12/04/2015 3:04:44 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Duchess47

Cruz was elected to represent the agricultural state of Texas. This is not about sugar or ethanol subsidies which are unnecessary because those should be market driven. Rand Paul and Rubio also voted for this. I would assume Trump would as well if he were a Senator, since he supports increased ethanol mandates and sugar subsidies.

Crop insurance is a joint venture between the private sector and government programs. Crops in entire regions can be wiped out by natural disaster. This could cause hundreds of farms to go under without the ability to recover losses and stay in business. That destabilizes the agricultural industry. Subsidizing crop insurance is cheaper than funding the entire loss.

Farming is vital to any nation’s national security. Farmers are the army that feeds us.


56 posted on 12/04/2015 3:13:07 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

I’ve been given a good explanation for every time he switched his vote or voted for something that supported Obama. This is another good one.


57 posted on 12/04/2015 3:18:24 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Tortoise head lied?


58 posted on 12/04/2015 3:20:43 PM PST by dforest
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To: Duchess47

Cruz is representing his state as he was elected to do. The farmers in Texas have had a tough year.

Cruz doesn’t have the luxury of just shooting his mouth off. He actually has a responsibility to his home state that he takes very seriously.


59 posted on 12/04/2015 3:21:32 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Duchess47

Crop insurance is the one ‘farm’ program that actual farmers benefit from. I don’t really approve, but it isn’t a scam. Most ‘farm bill’ spending goes to the urban underclass or to crony capitalism scams.


60 posted on 12/04/2015 3:23:51 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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