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To Stop Ted Cruz, The Fates of Donald Trump and Marco Rubio Are Now Intertwined
Erick on the radio ^ | 12/2/2015

Posted on 12/02/2015 11:24:48 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

The attacks on Donald Trump by the establishment are not forthcoming. Do not expect them to happen. Expect instead that Marco Rubio starts going up in the polls. It has come to this -- the establishment of the Republican Party has decided that Ted Cruz must be stopped. The way to stop Cruz is to not touch Trump and start helping Rubio.

This goes back to the story the other day about Karl Rove helping Ben Carson. The Establishment has decided it wants to keep Trump and Carson in the race for as long as possible. They are now calculating that Bush, Christie, Kasich, Fiorina, etc. can get out and that will give Rubio enough momentum to beat Cruz + Trump + Carson.

The thinking is that as long as Trump is there, Cruz cannot grow further. If Trump gets damaged, his support would go to Cruz. At least that is the thinking.

The Texan portrayed himself as a third way between the stalwart, non-interventionist views of Senator Rand Paul and pro-interventionist policies in pursuit of spreading democracy and human rights through the Middle East that Rubio espouses. Cruz's belief is that trying to democratize those societies can be counterproductive and that U.S. military power should be focused narrowly on protecting U.S. interests.

"If you look at President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and for that matter some of the more aggressive Washington neo-cons, they have consistently mis-perceived the threat of radical Islamic terrorism and have advocated military adventurism that has had the effect of benefiting radical Islamic terrorists," he said. So now the fates of Donald Trump and Marco Rubio are intertwined. The Establishment will treat Trump with kid gloves in hopes of boosting Marco Rubio.

(Excerpt) Read more at erickontheradio.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; elections; rubio; trump
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
If I were Rubio and I had an ounce of integrity, I would be absolutely p!$$ed that the GOPe has final decided to support me, seeing as how they worked to ruin his chance to be senator from FL.

So now they want to help out and endorse him? That should tell you all you need to know about them country-clubbing, Karl Rove lackeys.

21 posted on 12/02/2015 11:45:40 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

ROLF at you Erickson. Did you say that to the 24 people who listen to you on the radio? LoL.


22 posted on 12/02/2015 11:45:46 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; MinuteGal; oswegodeee; onyx; hoosiermama; Jane Long; DoughtyOne; ...

“It has come to this — the establishment of the Republican Party has decided that Ted Cruz must be stopped. The way to stop Cruz is to not touch Trump and start helping Rubio.”

I think it’s just exactly the opposite. I think the MSM/RINOs/GOPe/Dems, etc. are willing to bite the bullet and accept Cruz as the top dog in order to get rid of the hated Donald Trump whom they all consider the biggest threat to the established order in all the political world of Presidential politics. Won’t work, but this is just the latest iteration of the Get Trump the Heck Out of Here if we Want to Save Civilization as we Know It campaign. Even Cruz is preferable to Trump, and they all hate Cruz.


23 posted on 12/02/2015 11:48:05 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: HarleyLady27

Well said. In some ways, Trump is already leader of the free world. Obama’s presidency has lost all moral authority. He is ruling by executive (and tyrannical) authority only.


24 posted on 12/02/2015 11:51:43 AM PST by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: flaglady47

Establishment not touch Trump....LOLOL....that’s a good one!

Trump gets hammered, by the GOPe just as hard as he does by the MSM. Confirmation that the GOPe is a part of the Lying MSM, now.


25 posted on 12/02/2015 12:12:59 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: dforest; All

My goodness. It wasn’t very long ago that Erik and Red state were well respected around these parts. I, for one, don’t mind any healthy theories or debate, especially from one of our own (right up until he failed to take the personal oath of allegiance to the Donald).

FR is starting to resemble a “safe space” for Trump supporters only. How quickly we eat our own.


26 posted on 12/02/2015 12:19:54 PM PST by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: HarleyLady27

All of this reminds me of a Disney Mickey Mouse comic I read many, many years ago. Somehow Mickey’s dog, Goofy, had gotten mixed up with a pair of skunks, who were having a terrible time getting rid of him, so much so that the boy skunk said to the girl skunk, “Mildred, I’ve use up a whole atomizer [of musk] and he’s still here.” The GOPe is a lot like those two skunks and Trump’s in the Goofy role.


27 posted on 12/02/2015 1:33:15 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

LOL...never thought of that, but your right LOLOL.....


28 posted on 12/02/2015 1:38:43 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (TRUMP SUPPORTER 100% from day ONE!!!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

History Channel .. The Making of Trump rerun

The Making of Trump
Friday, Dec. 4 .. 9:00 - 11:03pm
Saturday, Dec. 6 .. 1:01 - 3:04am

http://www.history.com/shows/the-making-of-trump/about

The swagger. The glib pronouncements. The ego. The wealth. The hair. Despite the ubiquity of his
surname, to many he’s simply known as “The Donald.” Love him or hate him, Donald Trump is a
true American phenomenon. So where did he come from? What drives him? And what kind of leader
might he make? This 2-hour HISTORY special delves into the Donald’s past, filling in the details
and digging up the truth behind his legendary rise, fall and comeback.

This is the story of an American icon; His family, his business, his ambition and what makes
him tick. We unveil rarely-seen footage – from Donald’s interviews with Phil Donahue, to his
comments about politics from the floor of the 1988 Republican convention.


29 posted on 12/02/2015 1:53:31 PM PST by deport
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Erick Erickson is a moron.


30 posted on 12/02/2015 1:54:11 PM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Slyfox
If I were Rubio and I had an ounce of integrity,

Well, there's the problem. If you were Rubio you wouldn't have an ounce of integrity.

31 posted on 12/02/2015 1:55:42 PM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Lots of anti Trump people yelling WOLF. If they ever really did get something on him no one would pay attention. MSM has no credibility!


32 posted on 12/02/2015 3:10:07 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

“I don’t believe I have ever heard of Cruz being anti-Semitic.”

Nor have I. The reference was to past threads, not involving Cruz, in which posters who used the term “neo-con” were accused of being anti-semitic.


33 posted on 12/02/2015 3:37:21 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Worst of all, I have a Great Dane who looks a lot like Goofey.


34 posted on 12/02/2015 4:12:14 PM PST by libstripper
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
They are throwing the kitchen sink at Trump!

Poor Donald. Everyone is so mean to him. He can't get any coverage. He is in news coverage limbo. His message is being squashed. Nobody is hearing from him. Who is Donald Trump? Is he a liberal or a conservative? I guess since we can only rely on past statements since none of his present positions are getting out, we have to determine he is a democrat supporter. Right?

35 posted on 12/02/2015 4:31:11 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Starstruck

Go Trump!!!


36 posted on 12/02/2015 5:27:30 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Really???


37 posted on 12/02/2015 5:28:40 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: deport

Thanks!


38 posted on 12/02/2015 5:37:08 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: flaglady47
I think it’s just exactly the opposite. I think the MSM/RINOs/GOPe/Dems, etc. are willing to bite the bullet and accept Cruz as the top dog in order to get rid of the hated Donald Trump whom they all consider the biggest threat to the established order in all the political world of Presidential politics.

Absolutely not true. The NY Times article recently just quoted an insider who said he wouldn't try to hurt Trump because he's keeping Cruz from rising.

Cruz is the biggest threat to the establishment and they know it. Trump's positions are much more moderate and he's shown he will change his positions easily when the right situation comes along. Trump isn't committed to a consistent ideology. Trump is not a small-government conservative. He wants big government solutions to most things.

Cruz is the ONLY real threat to the D.C. establishment running. He's a lifelong small-government conservative who will slash and burn D.C. institutions. That will strip power from the two-party cabal and give it back to the people which is terrifying to the establishment and the big donors who've paid them off to keep the big-government, crony capitalist status quo.

Trump has lived his life in the crony capitalist system, is much more comfortable with it and won't do anything significant to change the status quo in D.C. He will keep it a very friendly environment to big business interests, who he represents as well as any big donor. Unlike Cruz, Trump will support the expanding surveillance state, support Medicare/Social Security with no reforms, continue government funding for some form of universal health care and do nothing to curb eminent domain.

39 posted on 12/03/2015 8:46:49 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones

“Trump has lived his life in the crony capitalist system, is much more comfortable with it and won’t do anything significant to change the status quo in D.C.”

And Cruz will leave the illegal immigrants stay in the U.S. and will give them some kind of legal status, thus throwing the majority vote to the Dems for years to come.


40 posted on 12/03/2015 1:33:08 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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