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To: SamAdams76

“Conservatives on the other hand want black people to be happy and successful and off the government dole so they can leave the ghettos.”

I used to believe that most “conservatives” did feel this way....I know I do and I am staunchly a social/moral conservative.

However, lately I am starting to think that the vast majority (not all of course) of “conservatives” just want to see “black people” or any other kind to be “off the government dole”, they really could care less if they ever become “happy and successful” so they “can leave the ghettos.” I’m seeing a great many (not all of course) “fiscal” conservatives that only care about cutting costs.....it isn’t about “helping” anyone get out of the ghetto. It is noble sounding talk, but it isn’t genuine. In many ways it is as bad as the liberal Dems that use the welfare state to keep “Blacks” in ghettos and voting for Dems.

Now are there a bunch of lazy bums living off the government (and for generations)....most certainly. Should this be allowed to continue...no because we shouldn’t subsidize laziness. However, how many conservatives really want to see them “happy and successful” in that it would require jobs that aren’t there and those few that would never pay enough to make anyone “happy and successful.”

I think more self professed “conservatives” should just admit they don’t want to subsidize the nonworking poor, and stop with the rhetoric about “helping” them get out of the ghetto. It isn’t true.


14 posted on 11/30/2015 8:11:19 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
conservatives should just admit they don't want to subsidize the nonworking poor, and stop with the rhetoric about "helping" them get out of the ghetto. It isn't true

So individual conservatives should do exactly what for these people? Volunteer and go down to the ghetto and show them how use power tools, read books, ...what? It isn't for conservatives or anybody else to spend time on people who don't want to be helped. That has to come from within.

But getting many ghetto residents off the gov. gravy train might force many of them to actually exert some effort as far as studying in school, learning a trade, or presenting themselves to prospective employers as employable workers. If you have no job skills and a lousy attitude, nobody will want to hire you.

19 posted on 11/30/2015 8:48:05 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Sola Veritas
However, how many conservatives really want to see them “happy and successful” in that it would require jobs that aren’t there and those few that would never pay enough to make anyone “happy and successful.”

You have a point, but remember, the massive bloated pig of oversized, unconstitutional government is why there are fewer jobs to be had. It's a problem that must be attacked from all angles. One cannot expect to keep the freebies flowing while trimming the excess from the government, because the freebies are the majority of the excess.

I am one that watches the black community with aching in my heart, knowing they used to be the proudest, most staunchly pro-family conservative factions in America in earlier history, and seeing what freebies have done to their social structure, and their lives. "Happy and successful" doesn't necessarily equal "good paying jobs." It often means merely having strong families, and values. We really need to bring back biblical values in schools. That would help a lot in the happy and successful category.

29 posted on 12/01/2015 3:16:24 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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