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NASA Says Indian Scientist's Theory Is Correct, Black Holes Don't Really Exist
India Times ^ | November 27, 2015 | Bobins Abraham

Posted on 11/29/2015 4:24:52 PM PST by Jyotishi

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To: Jyotishi
This article is either a bad translation or gibberish.

And Hawking didn't say black holes don't exist.

21 posted on 11/29/2015 5:15:51 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Jyotishi

“flare” is what a stellar object emits in outer space. “flair” is what servers have to wear 37 pieces of in Office Space. Dammit, grammar, people!


22 posted on 11/29/2015 5:18:45 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Half-brother is Watching You!)
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To: Gritty

“Settled science” is an oxymoron. Which may be why we hear it so often from actual morons.


23 posted on 11/29/2015 5:21:54 PM PST by bigbob
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Not sure I get what the contradiction is supposed to be. By conventional black hole theory, matter that falls down the hole emits radiation as a result of being torn apart by the extreme gravity gradient. Is something being seen that does not conform to that theory either?

 

That's how I've understood it. Black holes are only "black" within the event horizon. I'd imagine that a large one would be fairly bright in an astronomical sense from torturing all the local matter as it falls in.

24 posted on 11/29/2015 5:25:05 PM PST by zeugma (http://xkcd.com/1608/)
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To: virgil

The NASA Muslim Outreach Division confirms the presence of one black rock in Saudi Arabia.


25 posted on 11/29/2015 5:26:54 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (No such thing as micromanagement...It's always more like microMISmanagement)
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To: Jyotishi


26 posted on 11/29/2015 5:27:09 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: lump in the melting pot

“Hey you two, get a room!”
“I hate that guy!”


27 posted on 11/29/2015 5:29:16 PM PST by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The dude in the WH is an A-hole.

Well..blackhole is a contraction of black a-hole.

28 posted on 11/29/2015 5:30:55 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Jyotishi
Right. But if I said it...sheesh. Just like if I say that Relativity is bullsh-t. [ducking]
29 posted on 11/29/2015 5:35:10 PM PST by o_1_2_3__
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To: Jyotishi

Please! This is as settled science as global warming!

#BlackHolesMatter


30 posted on 11/29/2015 5:38:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mr. K
Can a black hole explode?

The math models say no but no one can say for sure. If a black hole collided with an anti-matter black hole the resulting big bang might ruin your whole day.

31 posted on 11/29/2015 5:38:23 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Jyotishi

>> Mitra was earlier the head of theoretical astrophysics at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre in Mumbai and currently Adjunct Professor at the Homi Bhabha National Institute. <<

Adjunct = teaches a few courses for next to nothing. (It’s an affront to decency that such positions exist in all but the smallest universities.) If he had any prestige left, they’d call him a “visiting professor.” I wonder why the calamitous fall from grace.


32 posted on 11/29/2015 6:08:52 PM PST by dangus
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To: gov_bean_ counter

At least one black ho’ has been found in the W ..


33 posted on 11/29/2015 6:09:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Jyotishi

Well, I can’t speak for the math at all, but this makes a lot of sense to a layman:

Eternally Collapsing Objects[edit]
Though Mitra stresses that the `Black Hole’’ solutions are correct, his contention is that Black Hole masses, arising from relevant integration constants, are actually zero. His peer reviewed paper published in Journal of Mathematical Physics of the American Institute of Physics supports this contention by showing that Schwarzschild black holes have M = 0.[29] If so,

(i) The so-called massive Black Hole Candidates (BHCs) must be quasi-black holes rather than exact black holes and

(ii) During preceding gravitational collapse, entire mass energy and angular momentum of the collapsing objects must be radiated away before formation of exact mathematical black holes.

And since the formation of a mathematical zero mass black hole requires infinite proper time, continued gravitational collapse becomes eternal, and the so-called black hole candidates must be Eternally Collapsing Objects (ECO).[30][31][32][33] Mitra’s peer reviewed papers describe why continued physical gravitational collapse should lead to formation of ECOs rather than true black holes, and the mathematical ``black hole’’ states can be achieved only asymptotically.[34][35][36][37][38] An ECO is essentially a quasi-stable ultra-compact ball of fire (plasma) which is so hot due to preceding gravitational contraction that its outward radiation pressure balances its inward pull of gravity. Some astrophysicists[39][40][41][42][43] claimed to have verified this prediction that astrophysical Black Hole Candidates are actually ECOs rather than true mathematical black holes. The corresponding Harvard University Press Release[44] acknowledges Mitra’s original contribution in this context.

In 2014, soon after Stephen Hawking called the alleged loss of information in black holes his “biggest blunder”,[45] Mitra received widespread attention in the Indian media, claiming that he had been ‘vindicated’ [46][47][48] citing that he had apparently refuted Hawking and indicated the same almost 13 years back. [49] [50] [51] [52] [53]

Against the Big Bang Paradigm[edit]
As per the present version of Big Bang Paradigm, almost 70% of the mass energy of the universe is due to ``Dark Energy’’ whose most likely form is Einstein’s Cosmological Constant. But Mitra’s research has shown that Cosmological Constant is exactly zero as suspected by many.[54][55][56][57] In addition, these papers point out that as per cosmological observations, the actual universe is far more complex than the idealised perfect ``isotropy and homogeneity’’ assumed by the Big Bang model; and ``Dark Energy’’ is an illusion caused by such departures.

As per his recent research, a Big Bang universe can expand only linearly[58][59] so that popular inflationary and cyclic models are actually inconsistent.

Since perfect Hubble flow implies radially outward motion of test particles receding from one another without any mutual collision, his research claimed to show that ideal Big Bang model corresponds to nil pressure and temperature. If correct, this implies that the ideal Big Bang model is fundamentally unable to describe the physical universe endowed with pressure and temperature.[60][61]

He has also questioned the physical reality of dark energy.[62]


34 posted on 11/29/2015 6:14:40 PM PST by dangus
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To: BwanaNdege

...Back off man...I’m a scientist !

( ; ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbSABWJiJc

...Dr. Vinkman, you are a poor scientist !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_vHbFQRT3Y


35 posted on 11/29/2015 6:26:21 PM PST by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: Jyotishi

I am getting sick of this. First, it was “Pluto isn’t a planet” and now its “no such thing as black holes” ... Hey scientists: Stop screwing around with the universe!!!


36 posted on 11/29/2015 6:28:48 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
The dude in the WH is an A-hole.

And an ISIL.

37 posted on 11/29/2015 6:41:38 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Is something being seen that does not conform to that theory either?

Yup, the theory is that NOTHING, even the radiation, x-rays, whatever, can escape from the "black hole"....My question has always been, where does the stuff go, what's on the other side, does it empty out somewhere, and WHY are these part of the universe....their purpose?????

38 posted on 11/29/2015 6:46:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Jyotishi
Last month NASA announced that two of its space telescopes caught a huge burst of X-ray spewing out of a super massive black hole.

In the old days, black holes didn't let anything escape.

Guess they don't make them like they use to.
39 posted on 11/29/2015 6:46:49 PM PST by adorno (w)
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To: adorno
Guess they don't make them like they use to.

Made in China.

40 posted on 11/29/2015 6:48:55 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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