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To: jimbo123

I don’t know about anybody else but personally I’m getting pretty sick of hearing from this guy.


9 posted on 11/28/2015 9:07:42 AM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Kudsman

When I first started listening to Hannity, I got the immediate impression that him and Rice are bosom buddies. Sean Hannity puts Karl Rove on a pedestal. I stopped listening after that.


21 posted on 11/28/2015 9:11:45 AM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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Let’s declare a month long Rove moratorium on FR. If everyone quits reposting what he says maybe he will go away. Hey I can hope can’t I?


22 posted on 11/28/2015 9:12:10 AM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Kudsman

Getting? Long past that. Guess the truth may have hurt karl’s feelings or offended him or micro-aggressed him. Or something.


38 posted on 11/28/2015 9:15:40 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Kudsman

I am no Rove fan and I think after the first Bush II campaign he has been a damaging force in the GOP because he has been wrong about so many things - his “strategy” sucks.

However, I will swim against the tide here. I don’t think Rove was trying to be particularly brilliant or clever here - many pundits and many FReepers have said the same thing about Trump. It’s not some special political observation - it’s a simple observation about the DNA of Americans that we learned in kindergarten. Many of us (oh my gosh, beer is about to say something many will perceive as less than adoring about Trump) are concerned that Trump will lose a few points due to this stump speech behavior when it’s not necessary.

It’s a simple win-loss calculation. If he grinds his boot on those he defeats in the primaries it stands to reason that he will lose some potential voters/supporters in the general. Americans like a gracious winner. Trump is winning, but there is little graciousness involved. While we may chuckle and even agree with his summation of “insert vanquished primary opponent here” all he has to do is reach out to those voters on ideas and he will pick up the majority of votes.

It’s not me or my preference - the man who undeniably advanced conservatism the most in my lifetime (and built a massive coalition of Americans) was one of the most humble men I have ever studied -

His words on negotiation - I learned a few lessons about negotiating: You are unlikely to ever get all you want; you will probably get more of what you want if you do not issue ultimatums and leave your adversary room to maneuver; you should not back your adversary into a corner, embarrass him, or humiliate him; and sometimes the easiest way to get some things done is for the top people to do them alone and in private.

His words demonstrating the humble spirit - The greatest leader is not necessarily the one who does the greatest things. He is the one that gets the people to do the greatest things.

I wish Trump would study the life of this man because he led the closest thing to a national revival that I will see in my lifetime. He also had the most overwhelming victories. He was the biggest “winner”, but he is most often remembered for his humility.


87 posted on 11/28/2015 10:18:09 AM PST by volunbeer
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