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WTF Headline Of The Day: Anti-Gun Police Chief Urges Public To "Take Out" Active Gunmen If Possible
Zero Hedge ^ | 27 Nov 2015 | Tyler

Posted on 11/27/2015 10:56:01 AM PST by amorphous

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To: Talisker

Well you can try to face off a couple of AK’s with a Keltec PMR30 but I’m not going to. I’m not trained military or police.

At that recruiting center one or two of those marines had personal weapons agains’t one guy with an tactical rifle. I believe they both died.


21 posted on 11/27/2015 12:06:47 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Bryanw92
Swingline staplers

Well...

You have your concealed carry stapler:

Your small clip stapler:

Your full magazine stapler:

The high caliber stapler:

And the dreaded semiautomatic assault stapler:

"Go ahead, make my day!"

-PJ -PJ

22 posted on 11/27/2015 12:11:05 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Pontiac
Exactly. If you are unlucky enough to be one of the shooters first targets, well, your number is probably up. Doesn't matter if you are armed or not. However, if you are not, then you have a tough decision to make. Escape (if possible) or engage - risking injury, death, and sadly in this day and age lawsuits.

If it is a full on terrorist attack with multiple shooters using rifles you don't necessarily have to be out-gunned. You only need to get the first one. You can then take his weapon. There are risks with "upgrading" in this way though too. One, you just took him out, so obviously this means you have to go to an exposed position to retrieve his weapon and ammo. Two, when law enforcement arrives and/or other CC you are going to look like one of the terrorists since you are now similarly armed... So you might want to simply maintain cover and selectively engage...

The real message here is, you need to think about these things ahead of time. Once a situation unfolds, you're not going to have the time nor concentration to weigh these options. If you're carrying, you need to have at least an outline of when you feel you could/should engage, and when you would simply stay out of it.

23 posted on 11/27/2015 12:35:29 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The weapons are not the point. The point is what are you going to do? If it was your family laying there, would you walk away while the terrorists moved towards them?

Or would you attack?


24 posted on 11/27/2015 12:38:44 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Once a situation unfolds, you're not going to have the time nor concentration to weigh these options. If you're carrying, you need to have at least an outline of when you feel you could/should engage, and when you would simply stay out of it.

If you can afford it, take a practical shooting course. Then join a practical shooting club.

25 posted on 11/27/2015 12:50:05 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: amorphous

“...SPITBALLS?!!”

...Zell Miller, 2004.


26 posted on 11/27/2015 1:21:31 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (No such thing as micromanagement...It's always more like microMISmanagement)
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To: Talisker

Oh now you are talking about if it was my family all of a sudden not a bunch of strangers. Don’t be ridiculous. We are talking about getting caught out in public somewhere with a pea shooter up agains’t hand grenades and AK’s which is what the Paris attacks were.

Try to stay on the main discussion. The point of CCW is to protect yourself agains’t an attack on you while you are out and about. Its not to be the police and run to the sound of gunfire. I a crowded theatre I would be firing at the attackers and moving away as quickly as possible. End of story.


27 posted on 11/27/2015 1:58:59 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Oh now you are talking about if it was my family all of a sudden not a bunch of strangers.

Well yes, actually that is the point in a way, whether you see people about to be murdered as your family. It's a spiritual concept, don't let it worry you to much.

But tactically speaking, how does it differ between your genetic tribe, and other genetic tribes? How do you protect your genetic tribe with just your "pea shooter"? If the gun's the deciding factor, your genetic tribe is dead. If, on the other hand, your will to save lives and your brains and intent to fight back matter, then even a pea shooter would work.

It's not the gun, it's the person.

28 posted on 11/27/2015 3:13:22 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
If we get in the middle of a Paris scenario we will run like rabbits maybe throwing a little shade from our handguns as we go. That’s about it.

I dunno. I understand the shooters reloaded FOUR frigging times (so much for a high cap ban). I also understand that those familiar with tactics, say that they also all fired at the same time, allowing for no covering backup as they reloaded.

Whether I would have reacted and attacked at that point is moot - and God forbid I would ever be forced into that position - but if I was armed, even with a derringer, I think might have tried, especially if a loved one was with me.

29 posted on 11/27/2015 4:34:47 PM PST by Oatka (ES)
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To: Talisker

Well you have a good time down at the terrorist gunfight with your Bersa .380. I have observed that the most self righteous talkers are usually the ones you see in the rear view mirror when the chips are down. :-)


30 posted on 11/27/2015 7:57:47 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well you have a good time down at the terrorist gunfight with your Bersa .380. I have observed that the most self righteous talkers are usually the ones you see in the rear view mirror when the chips are down. :-)

That sounds pretty self-righteous to me - and you're the one talking about bolting in an emergency. But hey, if you need to dodge the morality subject with a backhanded insult, I understand. After all, it's not like you're unique these days, there's plenty of girls available to drink wine and snark with in your safe space. So you'll get plenty of support for whatever it is the collective decides you stand for.

31 posted on 11/27/2015 10:10:20 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

If you like almost everyone else gets caught out in a terrorist attack you will be hiding behind a wall crying for Mommy. You are not the police or the army. You will be lucky if you can just run away your legs will be shaking so badly. Your rhetoric about this is ridiculous. The best thing you can do is stay home and talk tough on FR knowing your Mommy is in the next room. :-)


32 posted on 11/28/2015 6:06:09 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Why do you past smiley faces with when you make savage insults? Do you have any idea how depraved that makes you?

You’re the one who declared you’d run away and not help anyone else, so don’t project your cowardice onto me. Your narcissism prevents you from being able to imagine anyone does not share your pathetic moral weakness and your wine-fueled, girlfriend consensus, filthy mouth.


33 posted on 11/28/2015 10:26:33 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

“you make savage insults” “ Your narcissism prevents you from being able to imagine anyone does not share your pathetic moral weakness and your wine-fueled, girlfriend consensus, filthy mouth.”

I said you would likely be hiding behind a wall crying for Mommy. Now I think maybe you got loose from the Cookie Farm when the staff was eating their Thanksgiving Day dinner. I’m going to have to drop a dime on you and tell them you are running wild on FR Bring the butterfly net. LOL!


34 posted on 11/28/2015 10:56:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That’s enough little Rambo girl. Run along.


35 posted on 11/28/2015 12:41:22 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Well said.


36 posted on 11/28/2015 12:48:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Talisker
It's not the gun, it's the person.

**********************

Exactly right.

37 posted on 11/28/2015 12:49:57 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Talisker

Don’t forget to take your meds. :-)


38 posted on 11/28/2015 6:53:52 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Don’t forget to take your meds. :-)

Its been so pleasant chatting with you, hearing how you'd run away, armed, and leave a crowd to be murdered, and then watching you claim both the moral and sanity high ground while reading your continuous insults.

The internet is perfect for you.

39 posted on 11/28/2015 7:43:00 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Pray,at all times. Carry, at all times. Never give up, at all times. Practice, practice, practice...


40 posted on 11/28/2015 7:56:07 PM PST by RedHeeler
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