[rbmillerjr]

“There is no proof that the Russians actually violated Turkish space, other than Erdogan’s worthless word.”

Actually they have radar proof that has been confirmed by US and NATO. And there is confirmation of the warnings given on open channels by other flights near the area.

[PIF]

Despite looking I am unable to corroborate your assertions. However, the Russians, unlike the US, has released its radar and tracking data.

As of right now the ball is in the Turkish-US court as to what actually happened and why. We do know that the Russians told the US of the mission plan in detail.

We do know that the Turks had to be waiting for the Russians to show up. We do know that to get a hit with the short range missile, the Turks had to briefly cross into Syrian air. Zero Hedge, to whomever the site belongs, has the Russian side. Seeing the details they have released, makes me wonder. Read the actual Article and debunk it, if you will.

[1rudeboy]

Please see my #93. If the Russian government itself admits the airspace violation, there’s no reason to get caught-up in the weeds.