Russia is already exacting its revenge on Turkey for downing a Russian warplane

Business Insider ^ | November 26, 2015 | Natasha Bertrand

[Timber Rattler]

Russia is preparing to sanction Turkey in response to its downing of a Russian warplane earlier this week, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced in a televised cabinet meeting on Thursday, according to the BBC.

"The government has been ordered to work out a system of response measures to this act of aggression in the economic and humanitarian spheres," which may include "limits or bans" on "foodstuffs, labor, and services from Turkish companies," Medvedev said.

The sanctions "could bite into more than $30 billion in trade ties between the two countries, as police here began seizing Turkish products and deporting Turkish businessmen," The Washington Post's Andrew Roth and Karla Adam wrote on Thursday.

In an interview with France 24 on Thursday afternoon, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said, "If we had known if it was a Russian plane maybe we would have warned it differently."

He added that his phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin had gone unanswered.

[SisterK]

Over 4 million Armenian Christians martyred by muslim turks. Got away with it the first time. Not above trying it again.

[GailA]

Putin doing DUMBO's job.

[Travis McGee]

A shotgun was used in the Paris attacks in the concert hall. Buckshot against massed bodies, pretty effective.

800 assault shotguns (collapsing stocks, pistol grips, extended mag, sights) = 100 Paris attacks, at 8 assaulters per.

[Seruzawa]

Oh I know how effective shotguns can be. They just aren’t generally accepted as “weapons of war”. My remark was aimed at the propaganda aspect of the photo.

[Safetgiver]

Shotguns are weapons of war now?....They were in VN.

[BlueLancer]

"Shotguns are weapons of war now?"

All of the way from the Trench Sweepers of World War I ...

.. through to Iraq.

[Travis McGee]

It will be news to SEALs that shotguns are not a weapon of war. At close quarters, one buckshot shell is like a burst from a subgun.

As far as propaganda aspects, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm not a semantical purist, I punch where it hurts the best way I can.

[Travis McGee]

GMTA

[CodeToad]

“My remark was aimed at the propaganda aspect of the photo.”

Muslims are smuggling firearms for their “refugees” that are the Trojan Horse to wage war.

Fact. Not Propaganda.

[Oatka]

If we had known if it was a Russian plane maybe we would have warned it differently.

A variation of the "Pelosi Dictum": We had to pass it to see what was in it.

[JoeFromSidney]

I wonder what this will do to the "suitcase trade" between Turkey and Russia. It was a booming business when I was in Turkey. People would take a suitcase of Turkish goods (usually leather goods) into Russia, sell them, and return with a suitcase of hand tools or other manufactured goods. I used to see a lot of Russian-made stuff in Turkish flea markets. Including bootleg versions of Windows.