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Lack of Enthusiasm From Supporters May Undermine Clinton’s Lead
nytimes. ^ | BLOOMBERG VIEWNOV. 22, 2015 | By ALBERT R. HUNT

Posted on 11/23/2015 5:33:00 AM PST by dennisw

But Mrs. Clinton has a striking problem with young voters. A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that a solid plurality of young voters has a negative view of Mrs. Clinton. She did even worse in a Bloomberg Politics national poll.

The worries of some Clinton insiders are focused on the general election. There is an “enthusiasm gap.” Surveys of voters at this early stage of the campaign show that young people, independents, possibly even blacks and Hispanics are not excited about her candidacy.

A number of women, especially middle-aged ones, are energized by the prospect of electing the first female president of the United States. That’s a strong asset.

Here is a result to unnerve her Brooklyn campaign headquarters: Both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton get a 60 percent favorable rating with 18-to-29-year-olds. She gets 35 percent approval and 57 percent unfavorable.

In the last presidential election, 19 percent of the voters were in that age cohort, which Mr. Obama won, 60 percent to 37 percent, providing his overall margin. There was a substantial decline in the number of young voters in the off-year elections, probably costing Democrats a couple Senate seats; a similar drop-off in 2016 might be decisive in a close election.

Blacks and Hispanics, it’s far from certain that these voters would be motivated to turn out in as large numbers as they did for Mr. Obama: In 2012, 13 percent of the electorate was black, and went more than 90 percent for Obama; 10 percent was Hispanics, who gave 71 percent of their vote to the president.

Will more black voters stay at home in 2016, without the first black president on the ticket? There is some evidence in recent nonpresidential years that heavier turnouts are becoming a habit with these voters.

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To: Verginius Rufus
Trump would come in second, and the official Republican nominee place third.

Not entirely a bad thing as the GOPe Going Out of Business Sale would commence soon afterwards. Karl Rove would be managing a Burger King by August.


21 posted on 11/23/2015 6:20:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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22 posted on 11/23/2015 6:25:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: norwaypinesavage

No big deal. They’re already stuffing ballot boxes, rigging machines, and preparing to defraud the next election regardless.


23 posted on 11/23/2015 6:26:58 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Buckeye McFrog
if that's their strategy, its the worst one ever.

scaring the majority of whites and driving them to the polls out of fear is a way to guarantee loss for a democrat.

the only thing people want more than free stuff, is to be safe.

24 posted on 11/23/2015 6:44:02 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: GreenHornet

Indeed. She has a lot of money, a lot of power over others, and a huge motivation to win the “get out of jail free” card. Her life is devoted to achieving POTUS, and she’ll destroy anyone to get it.

My reasoning, independent of particular candidates:
Facing a presidential election, 90% of voters already know who they’ll vote for (usually in the form of “no way in he11 will I vote for a ___________”, leaving only one realistic choice in a two-party-plus-pocket-change race) with a roughly even split. From there, another 5% will actually make something akin to a reasoned choice independent of campaigning, but will split the vote pretty evenly. That will leave a final 5% of voters who are actually susceptible to persuasive advertising, requiring just 2.6% of all voters to win.
Looking at precinct maps, it’s pretty clear that most areas are pretty firm and consistent in their voting patterns - no amount of propaganda will cause a meaningful change. The only susceptible areas are thin strips around urban archipelagos; research the interests of those areas, target them accordingly, and that vital 2.6% can be bought given enough clever advertising.
And it seems the Left has learned this lesson, while the Right hasn’t.
Hillary _can_ win, between enough money, data-mining, and blackmail. While Trump is persuading the already-persuaded, Hillary’s handlers are figuring out which exact voters to spend $128 each on to persuade.


25 posted on 11/23/2015 6:50:36 AM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: dennisw

She reminds them of their grandmother.


26 posted on 11/23/2015 7:05:24 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: dennisw

The Democrat leaders don’t give a shirt about governing the country.

They are in politics to make lots of easy money.

If they can’t make lots of easy money, then they’re out.


27 posted on 11/23/2015 7:11:32 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: dennisw
In the Democrat party, the selection of a nominee is less like an election and more like waiting for the party apparatus to announce the new leader of the Soviet Union, at which time all the people will agree and move on with their drab lives. It's Brezhnev. Yay! Andropov. Hooray! Gorbachev. Oh yeah! Hillary. Um, ok. I mean, yay!

No enthusiasm doesn't mean that she have a 45 percent built in base of voters in the US electorate. It does mean that if a real opponent comes into the race, a Biden, Warren or someone else that Obama anoints, Hillary can be dropped like a hot potato. It will be like she never existed, which also happened in the Soviet Union.

28 posted on 11/23/2015 8:28:34 AM PST by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A win by Hillary in 2016 would mean Democratic control of the White House for the foreseeable future with millions of “migrants” becoming voters, and several Supreme Court justices chosen by Hillary. I don’t think much of the GOP establishment either but letting Hillary win to teach them a lesson is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.


29 posted on 11/23/2015 9:05:56 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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