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Donald Trump hated wind farms — until an Iowa voter asked
Washington Post ^ | November 19, 2015 | Philip Bump

Posted on 11/20/2015 8:29:49 AM PST by thackney

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To: BobL

(try again)


101 posted on 11/20/2015 4:17:04 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Finny

There is no such proof except to those that listen to liberal media lies and exaggerations.

Show the ‘proof’ or go away.


102 posted on 11/20/2015 4:19:52 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Finny

Donald donated what? A thousand dollars? A whole thousand dollars.

Did he pledge a hundred million dollars to a democrat PAC? No, he didn’t. He gave a pittance to politicians of both stripes.

In 2008 he backed McCain.

In 2012 he backed Romney.

He thought Obama might be a unifier and was sadly disappointed.

Your figures are fudged and exaggerated. If you disagree, show your evidence and sources. But you won’t because they don’t exist. Oh there will be chicken shit to find, but then only people that put their stock in chicken shit will post such crap. So post something substantial or go away.


103 posted on 11/20/2015 4:27:19 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: BobL

It’s hitlerean but geeze things are really out of control in my city. Very difficult to work if not Spanish speaking Forget English

You may use it


104 posted on 11/20/2015 4:27:19 PM PST by stanne
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To: Finny

Well, no it wasn’t easy to predict, nor was his persistence. If you followed what I wrote over time, Trump’s demise was predicted by the GOPe bloggers on at least 10 occasions, and each time I explained to them they were wrong. If you think it’s easy, though, go back and read the blogs especially on NRO and all their predictions about how Trump was “finished” after the first debate, how he would “fade,” how he was no different than “Rick Perry” or “Herman Cain,” and on and on. No, I don’t think it was easy at all to say what I said.


105 posted on 11/20/2015 4:31:37 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: stanne

Thank you sir!


106 posted on 11/20/2015 4:33:02 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Finny

> “There is also ample proof that Trump has a history of leaning moderate to left. But you can skip it if you choose.”

Ronald Reagan campaigned for democrat Helen Gahagan Douglas in her 1950 Senate race against Richard Nixon and encouraged Dwight D. Eisenhower to run for President as a Democrat in 1952.

But that’s Ok, you can just skip the facts as you choose but it doesn’t mean you won’t catch hell for it.

Donald Trump never campaigned for a democrat or a republican.

The only campaign he’s been actively involved in has been his own, For his own campaign he’s chosen to run as a conservative, and has as a result taken more incoming flak than any candidate in history.


107 posted on 11/20/2015 4:43:35 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: LS

For what it’s worth, like you, I never bought into the predictions of Trump’s demise.


108 posted on 11/20/2015 4:54:51 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny; LS

But you bought into so-called ‘ample proof’ of his support of democrats even though you have no substantial facts to paint him as a liberal.

You’re just looking for somebody to stroke you and didn’t expect to be called on the carpet.

Go on and have your little selfie in the bathroom of politics. You’ve showed everyone you’re not serious.


109 posted on 11/20/2015 4:59:48 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage; Finny

By the time Ronald Reagan ran for President he had served two terms as a conservative governor of California and delivered “A Time for Choosing” in support of Barry Goldwater.

Trump, who has not even been a registered Republican in either of the last two Presidential election years and was a registered Democrat as recently as 2008, described himself as Obama’s “biggest fan” when he was elected.

To use your line, “you can just skip the facts as you choose but it doesn’t mean you won’t catch hell for it.”

Trump does not deserve the support of conservatives simply because he says he’s one. It’s really just that simple.


110 posted on 11/20/2015 5:02:59 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: Hostage

He hasn’t taken any flak. So far he has had it remarkably easy.


111 posted on 11/20/2015 5:17:02 PM PST by piasa
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To: piasa

BS.


112 posted on 11/20/2015 5:33:29 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

No, I was responding to BS. He’s seen nothing yet. W Bush got fifty times this much flak every single day. Reagan got at least 20 times this much flak. Hillary even gets more flak, which is saying something since the press is actually protecting her.
I’m concerned to see all the crying when nothing’s even come at him yet.


113 posted on 11/20/2015 5:40:59 PM PST by piasa
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I shook Ronald Reagan’s hand and was proud to have him as my President for 8 years.

But he was a democrat and a very big fan of FDR’s New Deal. I never held it against him and wouldn’t dream of doing so.

Donald Trump has shown his patriotism for decades and has always put Americans first.

Given the above facts, you have no point. You have a rant, but no point.


114 posted on 11/20/2015 5:41:46 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: All; Colonel_Flagg; Hostage; LS; dforest; CatherineofAragon; Norm Lenhart; 9YearLurker; dragnet2; ..
In 2004, Trump was saying that he identified in many cases more as a Democrat, and that the economy seems to do better under Democrats than Republicans.

According to the Clinton Foundation itself, Trump donated at least $100,000 to it, and openly admitted to donating to Democrats; it benefited him financially -- that is, advancing the cause of tyranny and harming the cause of liberty aided his own financial gain (and presumably that of his stockholders; aiding profits "trumped" protecting liberty, plain and simple.

According to the article linked above, "Trump donated $5,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the 2006 cycle, effectively buoying the election prospects of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, respectively. Just $1,000 of Trump's money in the 2006 cycle went to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The all-important 2006 cycle. But then, Trump was a registered Democrat in those days.

Trump was registered as a Republican from 1987 until 1999, when he switched to Independent, then registered as a Democratin 2001 and remained in that party until 2009, when he switched again to Republican.

B-b-b-b-but Reagan was once a Democrat, too!! Right?

Well, yeah, from about 1945 to 1962; by the time he ran for President and won in 1980, he'd already served as a Republican Governor for California and had been a Republican for 18 years.

Trump's actual actions and history show that a) he's only been a Republican this time for six years, and b) he's STILL even self-admittedly, as of July 14 of this year, "I identify with some things as a Democrat."

Reagan, on the other hand, stood strong in his rejection of the Democrat party after his switch, and was famous for saying, "I didn't leave the Democrat party, it left me."

It's one reason why when people compare Trump to Reagan, I can only shake my head in despair.

115 posted on 11/20/2015 5:46:02 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

Reagan isn’t on the ballot.

Of the options we have, I’ll take Trump.


116 posted on 11/20/2015 5:47:56 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
What IS on the ballot is a "Republican" who, in 2008, was a Democrat, and who for 21 of the past 26 years, donated more to Democrats than to Republicans.

Taking that option seems pretty short-sighted to me when a much better option, Ted Cruz, is available.

117 posted on 11/20/2015 5:51:14 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny; Colonel_Flagg; Hostage; LS; dforest; CatherineofAragon; Norm Lenhart; 9YearLurker; ...
Obviously what matters to voters is the urgent issue of illegal immigrant invasion in 2016. Trump poll numbers keep going up in spite of his erratic history.


118 posted on 11/20/2015 6:07:53 PM PST by entropy12
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To: Finny
I did not compare Reagan to Trump. But as I am writing a bio of Reagan it is interesting that he NEVER disavowed FDR personally, always insisting the policies were what failed. But that's neither here nor there.

Reagan changed in a five year period when he was SAG president.

I am unconcerned about donations, which are bribes businessmen pay to those in power. I do think Trump has undergone a virtual conversion in the last year, and as one position became clear (immigration) it began to spill over to national defense, guns, etc. there is no way of proving this.

What we can prove is that so far ALL the existing candidates save Carson and Fiorina have in their bites already let us diwn.

119 posted on 11/20/2015 6:26:41 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: newgeezer

He was talking about the wall in 2012.


120 posted on 11/20/2015 6:35:05 PM PST by Amntn
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