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TERROR IN MALI: US special forces storm hotel and free six American hostages
UK Daily Mail ^ | 11/20/2015 | Tom Wyke and Jay Akbar

Posted on 11/20/2015 7:26:26 AM PST by EBH

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61 posted on 11/20/2015 9:51:22 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Allah is merciful. We are not.


62 posted on 11/20/2015 10:26:24 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: oh8eleven

So, that Congressman who is Muslim, from Michigan, DID HE PLACE HIS HAND ON THE KORAN THAT encouages Muslims to eliminate the rest of those who don´t submit....


63 posted on 11/20/2015 10:36:26 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; Squantos
Why do we have spec op troops in Mali?

The US Army's 3rd Special Forces Group has Africa as their Area of Responsibility and Tactical Area of Operations. Primarily, they operate mobile training teams that offer military instruction to friendly nation military forces, particularly when both our nations face threats from the same or similar enemies, or when the troops receiving the instruction have received US military equipment from the Foreign Military Aid Program in which specific technical or safety instruction is a must. Among other skills, US Special Forces trainers are frequently fluent or at least conversant in the language of those who they instruct; in Mali, about 80% of the locals speak the Bambara language, and most of the USSF trainers who are not familiar with it have a passing capability in French. Mali has been torn by recent conflict worsened by the availability of weapons brought in from the late Col. Kadaffi's Libya, resulting in the French Operation Serval. A joint operation, troops and air forces from France, Germany, Denmark, Belgium and the US have taken part, and there are likely others that have escaped my- and hopefully, everyone else's- notice.

Why use them in this act of terrorism, when other terrorist attacks are ignored by Obama.

It is my understanding that a half dozen or so of those being held hostage were US Citizens, [AmCits] for whom the US military traditionally does that which is possible to protect, even to the point of conducting rescue operations at risk to their own lives.

As for the political motivations or limitations faced by the President, such matters of state are above my pay grade and limited understanding of abnormal psychology. However, the role of an individual in the US military is to take a bullet which otherwise might kill a fellow American or national ally. This role is most usually observed and explained to young Marines, but it sometimes falls to those of other services as well.

In 1978, Americans caught up in the fighting in Zaire that became known as the Battle of Kolwezi were eventually rescued by French and Belgian forces while the US Airborne Ranger unit from Ft Stewart, Georgia sat around on the tarmac of Hunter Army Airfield waiting for orders to go, conducting equipment checks and haircut and shoeshine inspections in the mean time. Following which at least one young officer chose not to reenlist in his train hard to do-nothing unit, and following his discharge, enlisted for a five year hitch with the French Foreign Legion as, eventually, a sergeant; second enlistment he made lieutenant again.

Unless we are to lose others like him to other services or private contracting, we had not only better let them do their jobs, but celebrate them when they do so.Merci!

Special Forces adviser with Malian troops performing maintenance check on AK47 and SKS rifles, 2007.


64 posted on 11/20/2015 11:03:51 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Pamwe Chete ....


65 posted on 11/20/2015 11:42:51 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos
Pamwe Chete ....

Wafa wafa, wasara wasara.

I will buy you a sweet banana.

66 posted on 11/20/2015 1:28:43 PM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: flyover
Wikepedia list the following for just the past year, it has a list of terrorist attacks dating back to the 80’s.

You have to go back a WHOLE lot farther.

67 posted on 11/20/2015 1:30:44 PM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Thanks for your excellent observations and summation.


68 posted on 11/20/2015 3:43:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Syrians escape to live well in US & EU..Our troops go to Syria to die in their place. More Obamacrap)
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To: archy

Is the Army Special Forces name referring only to Green Berets, or are the Rangers and Delat also called Army Special Forces.

Or, is Delta PART of the Green Berets?

Thanks, Archy, I really don’t understand that world!

Ed


69 posted on 11/21/2015 7:01:50 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed
Is the Army Special Forces name referring only to Green Berets, or are the Rangers and Delat also called Army Special Forces.

Or, is Delta PART of the Green Berets?

Thanks, Archy, I really don’t understand that world!

Glad to help explain. Short version is:

The *Green Berets* so-called by virtue of the dress uniform hat rarely [but sometimes!] worn on field operations gave the name to soldiers of the US Army's Special Forces branch, formerly a part of the Infantry, and still closely aligned with that field of soldiering. The SF role is often that of military advisor or teacher/instructor, often with foreign troops. Sometimes, direct action missions require SF techniques or talents, oftel linguistic or intelligence community-related.

The Rangers are Infantry and Airborne [paratroops] first, raising the procedures and skills of those functions to near-Olympic competitor levels. Often those from Airborne and/or Ranger units attempt the Special Forces [SF] entrance examinations, and often have some advantage over other applicants...and sometimes, not so much.

SF Operational Detatchment *Delta*, aka *the Delta Force* [and going by a couple of other designations [some classified, some not] over different time periods, is a relatively small special operations tasked unit within Special Forces, operational since approximately the failed *Operation Eagle Claw* hostage rescue attempt at the US Embassy in Iran, about which see this

So, yep, Delta, is part of the Special Forces, aka *the Green Berets.* The Rangers, very highly trained Infantrymen, are themselves very effective special forces capable units, and the Ranger-trained individuals not assigned to Ranger-designated units take their training and leadership back to other Army units and thereby increase the efficiency and capabilities of those units. And, sometimes, from there, they give a Special Forces qualification a try.

It's recently been possible to enlist directly for Ranger training, or for a try at the Special Forces *Q* qualification course; but that was not always so, and attempting to do so does not at all guarantee successful completion of that training.

70 posted on 11/24/2015 10:47:12 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for your excellent observations and summation.

You're quite welcome, my FRiend.

71 posted on 11/24/2015 12:10:12 PM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Very interesting, thank you, Archy!

So the Delta Force soldiers are technically part of the Army Special Forces (Green Berets,) but are an elite unit within, same as SEAL Team Six is an elite unit within the SEALs?

Now, where do the paramilitary intelligence soldiers fit in, like Johnny Spann (God rest his soul) in the S.A.D., are they Special Forces also, like Delta and the Green Berets, or are they actually not soldiers, but more intelligence agents?

Thanks, Archy, I appreciate your answer on this stuff! I also religiously read you and Matt Bracken!

Ed


72 posted on 11/28/2015 1:32:01 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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