Posted on 11/19/2015 7:36:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Earlier today in the Philippines, Barack Obama responded to Russian and French proposals for an anti-ISIS coalition by suggesting that he’d join up — as soon as the Russians dispensed with Bashar al-Assad. Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has a different deal in mind: Russia steps up to pull Obama’s chestnuts out of the fire and the US quits making demands about Assad. Consider it Moscow’s idea of a reset:
Russia said Wednesday that following the carnage in Paris it was now clear that global powers should unite without any preconditions on the fate of Syria’s embattled leader Bashar al-Assad.
“It seems to me there are no longer any doubts that it is simply unacceptable to put forward any pre-conditions for joining forces in the fight against terror,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after meeting his counterpart from Lebanon Gebran Bassil in Moscow. …
Lavrov expressed hope that other Western powers would follow suit and would be more open to cooperating with Moscow in Syria.
“I hope that the change in position of our Western colleagues — which unfortunately came at the cost of the terrible terror attacks — will be seen on the part of our other Western partners,” Russia’s top diplomat said.
The Guardian says this is less of a reset than it is the result of a long retreat. Even Assad has that much figured out:
In recent weeks, the US, Britain and the other countries that had previously insisted on Assad's immediate departure have been signalling he could stay on for a transition period of a few months but would eventually have to go. The Russians have seized on this as evidence that the debate about Syria is going their way.
The shifting mood was also caught by Assad himself, who said in an interview with a French magazine that Syria would only share intelligence on terrorists with France if it changes its policies in the region. Syrian officials have been making this argument to European countries for the last couple of years, but it is now being listened to as calls multiply to work with Assad as the "lesser evil" to Isis.
"If the French government is not serious in its fight against terrorism, we will not waste our time collaborating with a country, government or an institution that supports terrorism,†the Syrian president told the magazine Valeurs Actuelles on Saturday. "You have to first change policy … to be part of an alliance that joins countries only fighting terrorism and not supporting them."
Illustrating the trend, the Spanish foreign minister, Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo, called for an agreement with Assad “to begin a ceasefire allowing aid to reach the displaced … kickstart a political transition and above all attack our common enemyâ€.
France is already signaling that they are much more interested in attacking ISIS than pushing Assad out. The Spaniards seem to be pushing for that policy, and it’s almost a no-brainer that Germany would prefer to focus on ISIS after this. If the European nations go along with this — and with ISIS now a threat on their streets, it’s difficult to imagine that they’d prioritize Assad’s fate over ISIS — then Barack Obama is going to start feeling very lonely, and very soon.
On top of all this, it’s also the right call. Regardless of how terrible a despot Assad is — although not so bad that the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton refrained from describing him as a “reformer” — the actual threat to US and Western interests comes from ISIS. Until the last few weeks, Obama posited that ISIS was already declining and that removing Assad would hasten their collapse. That is clearly wrong, and now we have a quasi-state that has turned from consolidating its position to striking their enemies abroad.
The priority is obviously ISIS, not Assad. The EU will need Russia on their side, especially since Obama has made it clear that he has no interest in applying any more effort in fighting ISIS. The only one who doesn’t seem to grasp the shift, at least so far, is Obama. Smart power.
Americans have no interest in Assad staying or not. Never have.
Anyone that does is OWNED by the House of Saud. Just like the recent discovery of where all the pro-ISIS twitter accounts originate from, Saudi Arabia.
One time I don’t respect what Lavrov supposedly said
Take out ISIS for Mother Russia and the rest of the world, not for obama
The Allies who took out Hitler were a strange mixture as well.
That's more or less a foregone conclusion now. The Mouthy P***y of a "community organizer" was never qualified for the big league.
There is no way the big mouthed man-child is going to get his way, so all that's left is for us to witness the temper-tantrum of this infantile fool.
We did real well with Morsi, didn’t we? He was zero’s pick.
I’d have to concur with Me. Lavrov.
What makes him think Obammy wants to take out ISIS? Obammy wants to promote ISIS.
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-— What makes him think Obammy wants to take out ISIS? Obammy wants to promote ISIS. -—
It helps to expose Obola s intentions.
Obama does. He still wants the Muslim Brotherhood to have a real country to operate out of. He first tried Egypt, then Libya.
Obama wants Assad out because he stands in the way of the expansion of the caliphate. Just like Obama/Hillary killed Qadaffi and caused much of the migrant crisis by boats coming across the Mediterranean as well as turning Libya into a failed state that is a perfect breeding ground for growing terrorists.
Of course, that's the crux of the matter - O'bummer doesn't WANT his JV team taken out -
His whole goal all along was to take over another country for The Caliphate -
You believe Russia should accept the US requirement of removing Assad first before the US will help Russia and the rest of the forces?
Russia is going ahead fighting ISIS regardless. This was Obama asking for extra conditions before he works with them.
Barky would rather see ISIS metastasize all throughout the Middle East and the West, and slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the name of ‘allah’, rather than to admit that he has been unable to find his ass even with a road map and a flashlight.
Obama isn’t incompetent, he is deliberately taking all the steps which will enable ISIS to extend their tentacles into OUR Nation and inflict the same kind of carnage we saw in Paris on We The People of the United States.
If the weak-kneed Congress won’t impeach him, it is up to whatever remaining loyal military officers to eliminate this ‘domestic threat’ to our national security.
“Earlier today in the Philippines, Barack Obama responded to Russian and French proposals for an anti-ISIS coalition by suggesting that he’d join up — as soon as the Russians dispensed with Bashar al-Assad.”
Good. The invitation has been declined. DO NOT ASK AGAIN. Obama is an Islamophile and terror sympathizer. The Pentagon under this Commander in Chief punishes a soldier who attempts to stop ongoing warcrimes, specifically pedophilic rapes of civilian captives. We have the best military personnel in the world, but their command chain has been corrupted and is untrustworthy.
Until the this administration and elements within the present military chain of command are removed, US involvement will only impede or even compromise anti-ISIS efforts by other nations.
You wanna see heads explode? We all know the MB are in control at the white hut...they chain migrated with Buckwheat and ValJar.
“Should the Gulf States decide to accept the Euro or other currencies the value of a dollar would plummet and the USA would be a broke debtor nation. So the Saudis get to yank our chain at will.”
You know, the dangerous thing about being a money man, jerking the chain of your hired muscle. Sometimes the hired muscle man kinda resents it and starts to get some funny ideas. Enforcers are that way.
If they could get past their bigotry, the Saudis could sit down with some New York Jews and ask them about how rackets, mobs, etc have this delicate balance with their muscle. Call it a little ecosystem if that helps.
Obama has no interest in taking out ISIS.
“Russia made it thru their collapse OK we could too.”
If we woulda collapsed it in 08, we’d be out of it already. (without Obozo). reminds me of that saying, if id have killed my wife the first time I thought about it, id be out by now.
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