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Double standard? French police fire 5,000 bullets in raid
Arutz Sheva ^ | 18/11/15

Posted on 11/18/2015 3:01:59 PM PST by Eleutheria5

French police on Wednesday in their raid of an apartment in north Paris fired no less than 5,000 bullets, leading many in Israel to question the double standard of the West demanding Israel show "restraint" in the face of terror

Reportedly 110 officers took part in the raid on an apartment in the suburb of St. Denis, where the Islamic State (ISIS) mastermind of Saturday's lethal attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was believed to be hiding out.

Paris Prosecutor Francois Molins revealed that police pumped 5,000 rounds of ammo into the apartment in a shootout with terrorists, and likewise chucked in grenades, leaving the building riddled with bullet holes and with windows blown out, reports Reuters.

Police arrested eight suspects in the raid, and at least two terrorists died - one female terrorist blew herself up with a suicide belt and another terrorist was killed in the onslaught.

A third suspect is thought to have died in the attack as well, and intelligence officials told Washington Post the third suspect was none other than Abaaoud. DNA tests are seeking to confirm his identity.

The lack of French "restraint" is all the more ironic ...

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; krounds; raid; restraint
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To: Eleutheria5

5000 rounds.
Assuming this is not a misprint or typo, it does seem to be a tad excessive.
5000 rounds??!!


41 posted on 11/18/2015 3:46:22 PM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Tupelo

Maybe they used a minigun?

:-)


42 posted on 11/18/2015 3:49:59 PM PST by doomtrooper99 (Mr Truman, you did not finish the job)
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To: Political Junkie Too

shoot to wound... what only in the next parish...The Frogs must have had their muzzles pointed straight up.


43 posted on 11/18/2015 3:53:11 PM PST by ptsal
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To: rrrod
Wouldn't doubt it. I've seen a couple pictures of what looked like old sub guns with tubular receivers but couldn't tell what they were.

Not that they wouldn't do the job but with this level of threat they might want to upgrade to something capable of accepting electronic sights, scopes, lasers, etc.

44 posted on 11/18/2015 3:54:10 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eleutheria5

At least they are doing something.

Our First Flower in Office isn’t doing crap.

God Bless the French.


45 posted on 11/18/2015 3:55:26 PM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: Hugin

the worn out 1970’s Ruger Mini-14’s need replacing

Worn out? They’ve probably never been fired.

And only dropped once....


46 posted on 11/18/2015 4:31:05 PM PST by njslim
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To: Eleutheria5

That’s, say, ten 30-round magazines from each of 17 officers.
Sounds pretty reasonable, given the targets were around a dozen terrorists he11-bent in killing as many people as possible fast.


47 posted on 11/18/2015 4:34:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Eleutheria5
One of the more interesting photos from AP in a while, during the police raid in France.

Dove[pigeon], female cop, immigrant cop, just a interesting photo I thought.


48 posted on 11/18/2015 4:49:44 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

That is a great photo. I’m surprised they don’t have rifles though knowing they are going into a fight.


49 posted on 11/18/2015 4:54:18 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Those calling on the jews to restrain themselves from destroying their attackers — want the Jews dead. It’s just ttat simple. Even some of the “hopelessly liberal” Jews are finally waking up to their peril in supporting their enemies


50 posted on 11/18/2015 4:55:12 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Police have conducted raids nationwide in France, arresting 60 suspects”

Only 5,999,940 or so to go, before cleaning up their country.


51 posted on 11/18/2015 6:40:35 PM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Eleutheria5
In 2002, Chen Keinan's mother and one year old child were killed by a homicide bomber in Petah Tikvah, Israel. With the smug way both Europe and the drive be media deal with the terror against the Jews in Irael (and maybe everywhere else). Chen Keinan gave this prescient warning in 2002:

Chen, "I tell you how I see the future: I think Israel is like the canary in the coal mine and that's what the Europeans and I am sorry. I know this goes to Europe and I said different [more positive] things to Ameica [on CNN-USA] but we in Israel are dying now. We are slaughtered on a daily basis, but you're next! You're next buddies. I understand that you have a lot of Muslim minorities. That's OK, everbody should live where he wants, but you are appeasing terrorism! And you hope that if you tolerate it, and try to understand its motives and you give it reasons, whatever they are, I ask the Europeans: Do not tolerate murder! I don't want to use the word terrorism, because it's banal. Do not tolerate murder; do no appease the terrorists! Nor for oil, and not because you're scared because the more fear you show, the faster it's going to be on your doorstep and then, G-d help you because you gave it legitimacy. And my baby's blood is just as prescious as any French blood. G-d help these hypocritical people!

52 posted on 11/18/2015 6:59:07 PM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Eleutheria5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayFlOQikrWQ


53 posted on 11/18/2015 9:01:36 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Stepan12

So it always is. Nosair kills Kahane? Well, he was a rabbi that nobody liked. These are our Afghani operatives, and they’re entitled to have a little fun at the expense of the Jooos! Then they blow up the WTC and try to blow up New York. It’s always only something they’re doing to the Jooos! until it jumps up and bites them in the arse.


54 posted on 11/18/2015 10:59:19 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: BobL

Ironic number.


55 posted on 11/18/2015 11:03:12 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

” leading many in Israel to question the double standard of the West”

Who is ‘the West?’

Is it Germany? France? America? Canada? Australia? GB?

Is it right wingers? Is it left wingers?

Is it Christians who are all pro-Israel? Is it atheists? Is it all the other religions that now live in ‘the West?”

All Westerners are the same like all Middle Easterners are the same. If I really wanted to be a jerk about it I’d say I question the double standard of Middle Easterners killing anyone who disagrees that their religion is peaceful.


56 posted on 11/19/2015 2:15:30 AM PST by Johnny Carcinogen
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To: Johnny Carcinogen

I don’t question the double standard. It’s there. It’s real. It’s to be dealt with. I feel no sangfroid vis a vis Paris. It merely infuriates me that they are so shameless or perhaps unconscious of their habitual use of it.

Neither do I question the fact that Islam is not in the least peaceful. It’s a warrior religion whose adherents believe it is their manifest destiny to conquer and subdue, to kill the heathen wherever he is found and humiliate the people of the book. In modern times they have come to believe that the Jooo! people of the book are involved in an evil conspiracy to not submit to humiliation, but instead humiliate Moslems, who are very susceptible to humiliation, and that Christians who are aiding and abetting this nefarious plot deserve to die, too. Peaceful? Ha. Dubya was engaging in counter-Taqiyya when he described Islam as a religion of piece.


57 posted on 11/19/2015 3:22:02 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: butlerweave

In various coverage, I saw a 12 gauge shotgun, lots of smallish 9mm pistolas, many FAMAS bullpups in 5.56, and a few Mini-14’s. The bullpups can spit out over 1000 rounds per minute in full auto, which is fine for storming buildings, laying down suppressive fire, etc. For a successful aimed shot at a terrorist’s noggin, which would you rather have?

Let’s hope the French police have snipers we didn’t see, armed with appropriate hardware.


58 posted on 11/19/2015 6:28:15 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Johnny Carcinogen

” leading many in Israel to question the double standard of the West”

America, Canada, EU. They have basically Greco-Roman culture, with Hebrew influence added via Christianity.

Even fanatical atheists and communists who swear they hate everything about the West and especially Christianity are really Western. They are rejecting Western conclusions, but are so immersed in Western paradigms that they cannot see past them.

Who is pro-West? These days most Jews. In former years, post-Ataturk Turkey and Iran under the Shah. Modern Japan and China. But that is different than saying Western.


59 posted on 11/19/2015 2:40:11 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

That’s about 455 rounds per perp. Here the liberals want to restrict us to about 5 rounds. WTF?


60 posted on 11/19/2015 2:48:48 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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