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To: GregNH
The only situation not covered by positive law is when a child is born in a country, and both parents are citizens of that country.

The law says that any person born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. is a citizen at birth. Wouldn't that include children born here of citizen parents?

413 posted on 11/18/2015 4:35:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Any law would include a NBC’s but NBC’s are not in any law.


415 posted on 11/18/2015 4:42:45 PM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: DoodleDawg
The law says that any person born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. is a citizen at birth. Wouldn't that include children born here of citizen parents?

Well of course it would... after 1868. But how do you explain all those people who were citizens before 1868?

It must have been horrible for them living their lives without a written law telling them they were US citizens!

437 posted on 11/18/2015 9:18:51 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg; DiogenesLamp
The law says that any person born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. is a citizen at birth.

The actual text of the 14th Amendment...

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

At the time of drafting, the term "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" meant something quite different than it has come to mean today. Essentially, people who were in the USA illegally were not considered under the jurisdiction the USA, they were considered under the jurisdiction of their native country and, if caught in the USA illegally, would be deported therefrom to the country of their proper jurisdiction.

The two legislators primarily responsible or drafting the amendment made this quite clear in their correspondence and official remarks.

However, somewhere along the way, nobody knows exactly when or where (according to a Claremont professor who is expert in the 14th and appeared on the Mark Levin show), the State Department started recognizing such births an issuing passports.

Thus, acoording to the original intent of the 14th Amendment, anybody who is born on US soil of parents legally in the USA is eligible for US citizenship.

439 posted on 11/18/2015 9:45:58 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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