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To: GregNH
So you acknowledge that they are but can't accept that there is not a law needed for them and because there is a law for all other types of citizenship we need one for the only obvious type.

No, what I'm not accepting is your position that citizens at birth and natural-born citizens are somehow different. If one is a citizen at birth then they don't need to be naturalized and are therefore what the Constitution calls natural-born citizens. If the Constitution identifies a third class of citizenship then I'm not finding it.

399 posted on 11/18/2015 7:56:33 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Congress can naturalize persons and grant them citizenship at any time in that person’s life and requiring any process or none.


400 posted on 11/18/2015 9:24:13 AM PST by Ray76
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To: DoodleDawg
There are 4 basic variables governing citizenship.
  1. Born in or out of a country.
  2. Both parents are citizens.
  3. One parent is a citizen.
  4. Neither parent is a citizen.
The first (where born) is combined with the other 3 to determine whether or not a child is a citizen at birth. There are laws written to govern every situation - except one. The only situation not covered by positive law is when a child is born in a country, and both parents are citizens of that country. Why? Because no law is required, the child is a citizen ‘naturally’. 'Natural Born Citizen' simply means, a person born a Citizen according to the law of nature.

What is important about the 'law of nature'? There is a legal term Jura naturæ sunt immutabilia - and it means, "The laws of nature are unchangeable".

410 posted on 11/18/2015 3:59:29 PM PST by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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