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To: Brad from Tennessee
We Vietnam vets went to Vietnam because our country called us there, because we believed in the greater cause of Americas need to alleviate that continent of the Communist scum.

We didn't fail, American politicians failed us.

They, and so many others who fought in Vietnam, were as great as any generation that preceded them. Their misfortune was to draw a bad war, an unnecessary war, a mistake by American politicians and statesmen, for which they paid.

It wasn't an unnecessary war, asshole, it was a war we were never allowed to win.

FU LBJ, FU Robert McNamara.

45+ years and I'm still pissed.

Welcome Home to my Brothers who returned.

To the OTHERS who didn't make it home.....My Country still hasn't given you a proper apology.

3 posted on 11/13/2015 8:47:31 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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Ping.


4 posted on 11/13/2015 8:51:27 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: PROCON

“It wasn’t an unnecessary war, asshole, it was a war we were never allowed to win.”

Worth repeating. The only politician who took winning it seriously was Barry Goldwater, whom LBJ and the mainstream press characterized as a lunatic.


5 posted on 11/13/2015 8:52:07 PM PST by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: PROCON

I’m always amazed at how easily Americans have allowed themselves to be duped into supporting these stupid military campaigns after Vietnam. I would have thought we’d never forget that our lives should be based on an utter distrust of our political leadership who would send someone else’s family members to fight a half-assed war that the politicians had no interest in winning ... halfway around the world in some Third World sh!t-hole.


6 posted on 11/13/2015 8:52:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: PROCON

Very well said. Many today have accepted the lie about Vietnam. We were not allowed to win.


7 posted on 11/13/2015 8:53:07 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: PROCON

Amen.


8 posted on 11/13/2015 8:53:56 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: PROCON

Rave On, Brother, Rave On...

(Words from a song I Used to hear when I was in the USMC)

Semper Fi !!!


9 posted on 11/13/2015 8:54:32 PM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: PROCON
FU ..Robert McNamara

Dead on!

fast forward to 1975..quoting Gerald Ford:

"Congress lost its guts."

14 posted on 11/13/2015 8:59:06 PM PST by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: PROCON; Pelham; meatloaf; HippyLoggerBiker; Prospero

We won that war three times. I use “we” to define those of my generation like me who fought there. Well, actually we won it the first time and the ARVN won it in Tet when they beat the Viet Cong main force units, and March of 1972 when crushed they the NVA mechanized army that came down highway one.

In each case Democrat politicians snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The first time was when Johnson’s Joint Chiefs of Staff told him what was required and he impolitely told them to go to hell as follows. A link to the entire article follows, which I first saw published in the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings.

“Seemingly deep in thought, President Johnson turned his back on them for a minute or so, then suddenly discarding the calm, patient demeanor he had maintained throughout the meeting, whirled to face them and exploded.I almost dropped the map.

He screamed obscenities, he cursed them personally, he ridiculed them for coming to his office with their “military advice.” Noting that it was he who was carrying the weight of the free world on his shoulders, he called them filthy names-shitheads, dumb shits, pompous assholes-and used “the F-word” as an adjective more freely than a Marine in boot camp would use it. He then accused them of trying to pass the buck for World War III to him.

It was unnerving, degrading.”

Vietnam 1965: The Day It Became the Longest War
http://extendedremarks.blogspot.com/2006/12/vietnam-1965-day-it-became-longest-war.html


17 posted on 11/13/2015 9:07:36 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: PROCON
It wasn't an unnecessary war

It tied up Soviet arms and money and brought their string of Astro-turf "popular" revolutions in Asia and South America to an end. And started the process of bankrupting the USSR for their inevitable fall. That's why puppets on a string all over the Left—the agents of influence used by the KGB—were so incensed. They had Martin Luther King come out against the Vietnam War in 1967. On national TV, he called America "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." America has no gulags, Rev. King. Even the Washington Post denounced him for it. You know that line was written in the Kremlin.

Vietnam was a righteous war, won by righteous men, and given away by slippery traitors in Congress.

19 posted on 11/13/2015 9:10:37 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: PROCON

Let’s not forget the treasonous WALTER CRONKITE who singlehandedly pulled defeat from the jaws of victory!


23 posted on 11/13/2015 9:46:36 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: PROCON
You speak far better and more coherently than I, brother.

My thoughts tend too much toward rage, so I tend to stay quiet. You speak well for us.

25 posted on 11/13/2015 10:04:33 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: PROCON

Robert McNamara and LBJ should have been down at the Vietnam Memorial every night begging on their knees for forgiveness until they day they died. There is not one name on that wall whom is not 100 times more man than LBJ and McNamara were but that is a poor comparison to those men. The names on the wall are the names of men, McNamara and LBJ should not be mentioned in the same line as men.

The names on the wall are those of warriors. McNamara and LBJ were and are a foul and putrid essence even on a good day.


31 posted on 11/14/2015 12:51:30 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: PROCON

It wasn’t an unnecessary war, asshole, it was a war we were never allowed to win.
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I agree with your entire posting!

JFK actually began the thing by inserting so-called military “advisers” and LBJ rapidly ramped it up from there.

I finished my military active duty in ‘62, but several of my childhood and HS friends were drafted and didn’t come back.


33 posted on 11/14/2015 3:14:42 AM PST by octex
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