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106 People Indicted in Waco Biker Brawl That Killed Nine (Waco)
NBC ^ | November 10, 2015 | M. Alex Johnson

Posted on 11/10/2015 6:51:16 PM PST by don-o

A Texas grand jury returned indictments Tuesday against 106 of the 177 people who were arrested after a shootout between cops and members of two motorcycle clubs left nine people dead at a Waco restaurant in May.

The McLennan County grand jury returned true bills accusing the 106 suspects of engaging in organized criminal activity, with the underlying offenses being murder and aggravated assault, District Attorney Abel Reyna said Tuesday night in Waco.

Charges against the 71 other suspects weren't presented Tuesday but will be "at a later time," Reyna said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: biker; gangs; texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: don-o

Wow and read all the info on all of them all in one day, what a amazing grand jury.


21 posted on 11/10/2015 10:00:22 PM PST by easternsky
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To: don-o

Just what they will do to all of us when we cross them. Shades of things to come. Next time they will do it by the thousands..... Then they came for..........US


22 posted on 11/10/2015 10:06:40 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; Blood of Tyrants; don-o; VerySadAmerican; E. Pluribus Unum; ...

The article refers to 177 arrested, and 106 indicted. Is there any estimate of how many were there that went away before the arrests started, or simply were not arrested because they were sitting down or not doing anything? They might all be witnesses.


23 posted on 11/11/2015 1:03:49 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: theBuckwheat

how the @@#$# does the RICO statute apply here?

unless they are on tape discussing pushing narcotics, extortion, murder...but then that would be the police discussing those things.

anybody ever see Serpico?


24 posted on 11/11/2015 2:46:19 AM PST by dp0622
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To: don-o
From Waco Trib - with mug shots at source

This is a list of 97 bikers who were indicted by a McLennan County grand jury on Tuesday, Nov. 10 for their alleged involvement in the Twin Peaks shootout. All were charged with engaging in organized criminal activity, with the underlying offenses alleged to be murder and assault. (Nine others, not arrested on May 17, were indicted under seal.) District Attorney Abel Reyna said charges against the remaining 80 bikers arrested following the melee will be presented to the grand jury in the future. The following is a list of the bikers who were indicted by a McLennan County grand jury on Tuesday for their alleged involvement in the May 17 Twin Peaks shootout. District Attorney Abel Reyna said charges against the remaining bikers arrested following the melee will be presented to the grand jury in the future.

25 posted on 11/11/2015 4:50:32 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: dp0622
how the @@#$# does the RICO statute apply here? unless they are on tape discussing pushing narcotics, extortion, murder...but then that would be the police discussing those things.

The state of Texas has this - Texas organized crime law.

And, from that law, here's what the probable cause affidavits claim to be the basis for the arrests

"Criminal street gang" means three or more persons having a common identifying sign or symbol or an identifiable leadership who continuously or regularly associate in the commission of criminal activities.

Do not need a steenkin' tape. Just find them signs and symbols.

26 posted on 11/11/2015 5:02:12 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
Just because they were at a restaurant together!

Yet the Mohammedans can meet and openly indoctrinate their members to murder!

27 posted on 11/11/2015 5:48:56 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: rawcatslyentist
From CBS in Dallas

Six of San Antonio-based attorney Jay Norton's clients were indicted Tuesday. He said that based on the pretrial discovery materials he had reviewed in the case, there was a "serious lack of evidence" to indict 106 people. "This is amazing and truly scary. We do not understand what the district attorney's office is doing, but it;s not about reality," he said.

28 posted on 11/11/2015 5:51:52 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o; Finny

Ah yes, looking at that link showing these nice upstanding citizens makes me warm and fuzzy all over. Not a normal looking one in the group. Would either of you fellas let your daughter alone with any of these guys?


29 posted on 11/11/2015 5:52:58 AM PST by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: petercooper
Not a normal looking one in the group.

So you would criminalize "abnormal" appearance? How very Taliban of you.

30 posted on 11/11/2015 5:59:20 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
They don't even need the symbols, leadership, or anything!

My sister, step sister, and her son. The son is a dope head, he got busted. They charged them with organized crime. No murders, just a stupid teenager, and an oppressive legal system.

To generate revenue and oppress!

31 posted on 11/11/2015 5:59:29 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: don-o

They go hand in hand. I wouldn’t hire any of these guys to clean out my septic tank.


32 posted on 11/11/2015 6:00:49 AM PST by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: petercooper

So the rule of law takes a back seat to your personal preferences. Think that one all the way through.


33 posted on 11/11/2015 6:05:33 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Anyone who travels within 100 miles of Waco Texas is insane.

This town should starve.


34 posted on 11/11/2015 6:07:47 AM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: petercooper

Your tagline was written by a heroin junkie. Maybe you should be indicted too!


35 posted on 11/11/2015 6:15:12 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: petercooper

Drive-by one liner poster won’t engage when challenged. Posts one liner and, drives away.


36 posted on 11/11/2015 6:17:27 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yes, next time I’m involved in a violent biker brawl. Sounds fun.


37 posted on 11/11/2015 6:39:13 AM PST by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: don-o
106 People Indicted in Waco Biker Brawl That Killed Nine - NBC News - Nov 10 2015, 8:43 pm

The indictments weren't made public, and the identities of the 106 suspects weren't released.
From your link, many of those indicted have been identified. I'd like to read a few of the indictments.

Grand jury indicts 106 in Waco biker shooting | Dallas Morning News | November 10, 2015 08:03 PM

John Wilson, the president of the McLennan County Cossacks, and his son, Jacob Wilson, were both indicted Tuesday. Wilson said that he had "full confidence" neither he nor his son would be convicted and that he would refuse a plea bargain if offered.

The indictment "doesn't mean much," he said, adding he believes that since the indictments were done in such a short amount of time that they were "a cookie-cutter deal."

Reyna was likely emboldened by the decision in the Pilkington and Weathers cases (Tenth Court of Appeals Case No. 10-15-00218-CR), and also, as a matter of law, an indictment represents a finding of probable cause a crime was committed. The challenge to indictment comes in the trial process, whereas a challenge to accusation can be had in an examining trial. Once indicted, examining trial can no longer be obtained, and bond conditions can be maintained - that is, there is no right to have bond and bond conditions lifted.

The way I see it, this move is just kicking the can a little farther down the road.

I see that Clendennen was indicted. That ought to get Broden's knickers in a knot.

And, still waiting for a decision from Texas' highest criminal court on the gag order. The case has been submitted for decision for over a month now.

38 posted on 11/11/2015 6:41:19 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Musketeer
-- I reckon the grand jury got to see all of the videos and intel leading up to the event. --

They'd only need to see a little bit of it, enough to establish that there was a gunfight and deaths. Most of those charged (maybe all of them) are charged with the same thing they were accused of, conspiracy. So, much of the evidence is in the nature of establishing an association between the person charged, and a motorcycle gang or club.

Just saying, I doubt the grand jury saw any more evidence than has already been presented at examining trials and similar legal proceedings.

39 posted on 11/11/2015 6:44:23 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: petercooper
-- Yes, next time I'm involved in a violent biker brawl. --

On the legal theory being pressed, there is no need to be involved. If you are associated with a group, and somebody else in that group commits a crime, then you are a criminal too.

40 posted on 11/11/2015 6:45:47 AM PST by Cboldt
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