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How polling poisoned the political well
Hot Air.com ^ | November 8, 2015 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 11/08/2015 3:41:14 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/08/2015 3:41:14 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

As I recall, our arch-enemy Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com used polls to make the correct call in every state and D.C. in the 2012 election.

Polling isn’t quite a science but done right it can be pretty good. It can also be done bad. Very bad.


2 posted on 11/08/2015 3:49:47 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Kaslin
modern polling seems to be crippling the process it was intended to analyze

That's assuming, of course, it was really intended to analyze vs. influence. That's a pretty big - and naive - assumption.

3 posted on 11/08/2015 3:53:50 PM PST by trad_anglican
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To: Kaslin

Agenda driven polling is what has spoiled the well so to speak. They have always favored the dimoKKKRATS.


4 posted on 11/08/2015 3:56:32 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Kaslin

As with all things that could be helpful to society (science, religion, entertainment, the military, etc.) the left have politicized polling. The left is a cancer.


5 posted on 11/08/2015 4:06:31 PM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: Kaslin

I suggest that they stop using polls as news items (stories) daily.


6 posted on 11/08/2015 4:11:25 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Kaslin

Polls are a waste of time. Every idiot on the planet is doing them these days.


7 posted on 11/08/2015 4:40:27 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have you ever noticed that we don't have a "Battle Hymm of the Democracy"?)
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To: Paladin2

That would be entirely too logical!


8 posted on 11/08/2015 4:47:17 PM PST by sarasmom (TRUMP-Because there is no option to vote NONE OF THE ABOVE!)
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To: Kaslin

The polling companies are safe. Politicians poll to figure out what votes will keep them inside the beltway.


9 posted on 11/08/2015 4:49:12 PM PST by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: jwalsh07

With the ending of landlines, cell phones with area codes not linked to where people actually live due to migration and a refusal of conservatives and libertarians to reply to pollsters, the polls are not reliable.


10 posted on 11/08/2015 4:54:17 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: InterceptPoint

I used to pick up some extra cash, working for a polling/marketing agency.

Long vetting process to get signed up, and just a few proffered requests each year for my opinion services, but on balance, it seemed the agency delivered a high quality product for the companies that sought and paid for their services.
Political polling?
Random people who answer questions via calls from a strange phone number?
Yeah...that’s valuable.LOL!


11 posted on 11/08/2015 5:12:31 PM PST by sarasmom (TRUMP-Because there is no option to vote NONE OF THE ABOVE!)
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To: Kaslin

Reliance on polls is driving us towards a democracy instead of a republic. When policy is decided on what polls say, that is no longer a representative republic, but mob rule. Polls, depending on the type/quality, can be used as one tool or indicator, but because they vary so much and can be managed so poorly, heavy reliance should be avoided. Over a period of time, if results are fairly consistent, they can be an indicator, but a large amount of faith should not be put into them.


12 posted on 11/08/2015 5:13:28 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The polling is ongoing day in and day out. Truth is people don’t change their candidate daily like polls would have you think.

So these polls are not trustworthy except maybe monthly or after some event or revelation that really changes how people look at a candidate.

Those things do not happen daily.


13 posted on 11/08/2015 5:23:16 PM PST by dforest
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If more accurate methodologies aren’t developed, polling will certainly become less important and may die out. The product many polling organizations are offering is badly flawed. It won’t take long before their customers stop paying good money to receive inaccurate numbers. In fact, that may be why we see some candidates staying in the GOP race even though their numbers seem hopeless. Perhaps some have discovered that polls aren’t the be all and end all of decision making.


14 posted on 11/08/2015 5:28:20 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: dforest
"I HATE polls!!!"

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15 posted on 11/08/2015 5:32:41 PM PST by digger48
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To: dforest

From my own experience, you are 100% correct, IMHO. I’ve been for Ted Cruz right from the beginning. I won’t change unless he is no longer a candidate. What the liars in the “media” say means absolutely nothing to me.


16 posted on 11/08/2015 5:37:17 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have you ever noticed that we don't have a "Battle Hymm of the Democracy"?)
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To: Kaslin
How   polling poisoned the political well
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17 posted on 11/08/2015 5:55:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

When I still had a landline and received polling calls during an election cycle, I never ever answered honestly.
Partly because I questioned the motives of the polls.
And partly because I’m just too ornery to cooperate with someone who interrupts me at home.
They never seemed to ask if it were an inconvenient time.


18 posted on 11/08/2015 6:03:12 PM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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as well as for our pollster Survey USA

Salem Media, your girls in Survey USA polls are not doing too well are they. LoL.

19 posted on 11/08/2015 6:13:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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Poll results are used to get the public to anticipate the proper point spread for the amount of anticipated voter fraud needed to steal the election.


20 posted on 11/08/2015 7:43:32 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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