[Carry_Okie]

"The four months of basic training American troops go through before deploying is something we just can't do with the Afghan soldiers over there. Their culture won't allow it. In Basic, you're worn down, humiliated, all your independent spirit and your pride, your individualism as a person that's all stripped out of you. Then when there's nothing left of you, they build you up again. They give you your pride back, you get it all back. But you're a whole different person now; you're a warrior."

And here I thought that when we were "training an Afghan army" this is what we were doing. Silly me.

"Bring some of their best over here and put them through basic training, American-style. The whole enchilada. Then send them back to their country and put them in charge as their military's troop trainers."

Um, how about we send a few instructors over there? Of course, after training them like that, they'll probably revert or be considered apostate. Frankly, the whole thing is a lost cause after this much time and treasure. We've been over there long enough to raise a whole generation, and if we can't do it in that amount of time, we should just forget the whole thing.

[raygunfan]

fight to actually win....this shit goes back to korea...where they didnt fight to win, we are the greatest miliary (despite dumbass in the whitehut) in the world and would wipe out islamic terror in short order if we were allowed to do the job of the military: kill people and break things.

but we have been handcuffed for over sixty years from korea to vietnam to the first iraq war down to todays war against islamic dirtbags.....