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Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship
Politico ^ | 11/06/2015 | Kyle Cheney

Posted on 11/06/2015 8:33:42 AM PST by GIdget2004

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To: Vermont Lt
"Do we sacrifice Carson, and make a HUGE deal about lying?"

We have to make a big deal about lying. That is the thing we will hit Hillary on in the general no matter who our nominee is.

301 posted on 11/06/2015 9:48:40 AM PST by Amntn
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Respectfully, there was nothing “hack” about it. This may be the most well thought out, finely structured Hit Piece I have ever read : )

LOL.

302 posted on 11/06/2015 9:49:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SteveinSATX

“So now politico is being taken as the gospel truth??’

When the candidate admits it, it’s time
to let go of the rope, Steve.


303 posted on 11/06/2015 9:49:59 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: FourtySeven

Yes, he did use the word scholarship. I still don’t see it as lying. A full ride is a scholarship. Look at the number of posts on this thread explaining that West Point comes with a full ride.

When writing a book for the masses, one would not be lying to use the term “full scholarship” instead of “offered an appointment that comes with a full ride.” The masses don’t care about the difference. This Politico story is horsesh*t.


304 posted on 11/06/2015 9:50:46 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Agreed. I’m sure it is an insult to you, and since I know several young men who are now at Westpoint, I am sure it is disrespectful to them, when the truth was plenty praise enough: that generals et al wanted him to apply!! Why not just say that?

Someone up thread said this was his Herman Cain moment, but Herman Cain didn’t lie about his military past! It is worse to lie about that, than to lie about cheating (though with Cain I think there were multiple women too, not great either).

Sadly, Hillary has lied about worse. And still gets no bad press. People DIED in Hillary’s lies.


305 posted on 11/06/2015 9:50:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: All

The worst part of this is we can’t talk about the pyramids anymore.


306 posted on 11/06/2015 9:50:54 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: lee martell
Carson’s campaign team should have done due diligence on his resume! Why didn’t they check these claims out before? They should have known that any conservative black republican would be closely scrutinized!

Heard Herman Cain say in an interview the other day that anyone running for the presidency ought to have a "Crisis Management" Team, totally separate from their campaign team, to deal with vetting issues, and then to be proactive in dealing with these types of issues as they arise. Agree totally.

307 posted on 11/06/2015 9:51:15 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: GIdget2004

We should kick Iowa out of the Union. They always seem to pick the worst candidates. Buncha corn-fed idiots.


308 posted on 11/06/2015 9:51:37 AM PST by Godebert
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To: sparklite2

Yeah, he’s finished and he should be.

Looks like a Trump/Rubio ticket is coming into view.


309 posted on 11/06/2015 9:51:48 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: FreeReign
Lets see, first you suggested POLITICO is an ally of Trump and implied they did this to Carson to help Trump?

And now you tell me you don't lie or bull sh*t?

LOL! You're FOS FreeReign.

310 posted on 11/06/2015 9:52:18 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GIdget2004

Isn’t it great that Dr. Carson gets a real anal in the media vetting process, yet the messiah got a free ride from the lame stream media.


311 posted on 11/06/2015 9:52:22 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: GIdget2004

I hope this brings to a close the whole Carson chapter. I know the gop white guilters will cry, curl themselves into a fetal position, and suck their thumbs. Hopefully, they don’t go out and drag Herman Cain into the race, or any other unqualified black.


312 posted on 11/06/2015 9:52:49 AM PST by euram
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To: nuconvert

‘I know what I am but so are you’ doesn’t help.
We aren’t looking for a Pee Wee Herman presidency.


313 posted on 11/06/2015 9:52:50 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: GIdget2004

I KNEW they had something on Carson and were just waiting for the right moment to spring it on him.


314 posted on 11/06/2015 9:52:57 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: GIdget2004
This is just a shame. Why can't someone put the screws like this to the DNC's Grandmother? Couple this with the transgender bathroom comment from yesterday and he's turned into brown bread = TOAST!



(No racist comments were thought of when typing this comment :-)
315 posted on 11/06/2015 9:53:54 AM PST by italyconservative (If we elect a milk-toasted GOPe, we will be left with out the milk!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The “concede the story was false” is not a quote from the campaign but editorializing by Politico. Let’s stick with the facts and not get sucked in to accepting editorialization as fact.

We have to ask:

1. Is it true Carson said in his book that he was offered a “scholarship” to West Point? That is, did he use the word “scholarship”’there? I don’t know I don’t have his book and I’m not taking Politico’s word for anything.

2. Is it true that West Point doesn’t offer “scholarships” but rather “appointments”? (This much seems true, which makes answering #1 all the more important)

3. Are appointments to WP only offered to those who start the application process first?

4. Is it true that Carson did NOT start the application process to West Point?

If the answer to all these questions are “yes” then he is lying and his campaign is over (or it should be. We aren’t Democrats). We need to get more independent verification than Politico though. That’s all I’m saying. It seems a distressing number of FReepers are willing to take Politico’s word for this. We can’t let them get away with another Herman Cain moment despite how we may feel about Carson. (I’m not a Carson supporter)


316 posted on 11/06/2015 9:54:10 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FreeReign

“This is POLITICO working hard to bury Carson.”

POLITICO is equal opportunity in slandering conservatives.


317 posted on 11/06/2015 9:54:14 AM PST by odawg
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To: GIdget2004

Carson has to learn how to, “cackle like Hillary.”

Somehow that cackling makes all of Hillary’s endless list of lies just disappear.


318 posted on 11/06/2015 9:55:13 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Tennessean4Bush

“Wow, what a hit piece. After reading the article, Carson never claimed to have applied to West Point, and his story in both books is consistent with a casual conversation with Westmoreland where the General might have encouraged him to apply and with his grades and success in ROTC he probably would have earned an appointment, which is a full-ride but not technically a scholarship, I suppose.”

I agree, but his campaign failed him again by putting out that statement. Just like the pyramid grainary story, it would have been easy to overcome it but they doubled down on it. I mean he could have swatted both of those away easily but the campaign did not.


319 posted on 11/06/2015 9:56:01 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: GIdget2004

His life story was already inspirational, why embellish it?
I don’t understand.


320 posted on 11/06/2015 9:56:08 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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