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To: fortheDeclaration
fortheDeclaration: "Is there some reason why you keep posting your nonsense to me? "

Is there some reason why you keep posting your nonsense to me??

fortheDeclaration: "I don't care what words science uses, we are talking about the real world, the world of reality.
When something is proven, it becomes a fact."

No, a scientific "fact" is defined as a confirmed observation, period.
Theories are never "proved" and are not "facts" except to the degree they can be observed.
In the case of evolution, what can be observed (i.e., "adaption") is fact, what cannot is theory, period.

Your desire to ignore correct scientific terminology is perhaps understandable, however it makes everything you say about science false and misleading.

fortheDeclaration: "Just because science want to define words doesn't mean it has a right to!"

But of course, science has every right to define its own terms, a right established and confirmed in US law.
It's you who have no right to redefine scientific terms to suit your own anti-science agenda.
Indeed, your positions have been tested and ruled against in US courts, for examples: here and here.

So you are out of order, sir.

fortheDeclaration: "You I haven't said anything corrected, anything, you I just have repeated the my same nonsense over and over again.
Real science shows how the real world works, not the world that lives in your my imagination."

There, corrected it for you. Yes, you're welcome.

fortheDeclaration: "Real science cannot prove or disprove the origins of the universe or life.
That is a FACT.
So, if someone believes that the origin of the universe and life was by evolution and not creation, they do so by FAITH.

Now you're just babbling nonsense.
As I have corrected you now many times, science does not "prove" anything.
A "fact" is whatever can be & has been observed.
Much of evolution has been observed and is therefore fact.
Much else of evolution -- recorded in deep-time geology -- cannot be directly observed and is therefore theory, theory confirmed innumerable times, daily, by discoveries of fossils, DNA analyses and many other scientific processes.

So, there's no "belief" or "faith" in it, it's simply a matter of accepting what the abundant evidence shows us.

fortheDeclaration: "Just like those who believe in a Creator.
Now, stop posting your idiocy to me."

But faith in God is a very different matter from analysis of scientific data & theories.
Many people experience the presence of God in their lives, and for them faith is not even a small leap, it's a simple step in the right direction, requiring no great struggle or study -- though those can help to deepen faith.

Science is a very different matter, requiring no personal commitment to any particular idea, indeed science forbids that.
The only things science really require are that you use proper scientific terminology, and report accurately on scientific matters.

So I have been trying to instruct you, but you stubbornly refuse to grasp any of it.

"Now, stop posting your idiocy to me."

Indeed

169 posted on 11/17/2015 5:13:49 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
The only thing TRUE science is to do is show how the world works.

It has nothing to say on how it came into being, or how life began.

If science claims otherwise, it is 'science falsely so called' no matter what definitions it makes up.

172 posted on 11/17/2015 11:30:42 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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