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To: BroJoeK
It is how 'science falsely so-called' works.(1Ti.6:20)

You just create the definitions you want.

Science is testable, evolution isn't.

The beginnings can't be tested, only believed, so both creation or evolution are accepted by faith (Heb.11:3)

139 posted on 11/13/2015 2:42:51 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
fortheDeclaration: "It is how 'science falsely so-called' works.(1Ti.6:20) "

Your effort here to have the Bible declare war on science is noted and rejected.
Rejected because the word your King James translates as "science" is the Greek word "gnosis" which in no way means today's science.
Instead, Paul's warning to Timothy uses the word "gnosis" meaning secret spiritual knowledge practiced by heretical Gnostics.

That's why only six of 54 translations listed at Bible Gateway use the KJV's mistranslation of "science".
The others all more correctly use the word "knowledge", which should be understood as referring to secret Gnostic knowledge.

fortheDeclaration: "You just create the definitions you want."

I don't, but modern science certainly does.
Science defines not only itself, but also everything it sees in the natural realm.
Sure, you may disagree with some of those definitions, but they are still science, and your own definitions not necessarily so.

fortheDeclaration: "Science is testable, evolution isn't. "

You may already know, in science a confirmed observation is called a fact.
A good example is the size, shape & rotation of the Earth, all have been observed, confirmed and classified as "fact".
Scientific explanations about how and why facts are what they are fall into two categories: hypotheses and theories.
The difference is, a hypothesis is a confirmable explanation, while a theory is a confirmed hypothesis.
Confirmation comes from several methods, including verified predictions.

So basic evolution falls into the scientific category of confirmed theory, confirmed by innumerable verified predictions including many transitional forms.

fortheDeclaration: "The beginnings can't be tested, only believed, so both creation or evolution are accepted by faith (Heb.11:3)."

Your reference to Hebrews 11:3 refers to faith in God, and is true, but natural science is based on a different assumption, namely: natural explanations for natural processes, period.
Modern science -- natural science -- by definition is the effort to find natural explanations for natural processes.
It rules out a priori any supernatural events and any supernatural explanations.
Science itself doesn't deny supernatural events might exist, only that natural-scientific theories are not the proper tools to explain them.

141 posted on 11/14/2015 6:45:32 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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