Some background info.
U.S. intelligence has intercepted messages from ISIS members talking about bringing down the Russian plane in Egypt, but the Egyptian Ministry of Civil Aviation said there is no evidence yet to support the bomb theory.
Meanwhile, a top British official calls a bomb blast a “significant possibility.” The disaster killed all 224 people on board after it took off from Sharm el-Sheikh. Allen Pizzey reports from Cairo.
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/egypt-insists-still-no-evidence-of-bomb-on-russian-jet/
No one said definitively. It is important to act now if a bomb is even possible. They don’t want more planes blown out of the sky.
Interesting that for 14 years next week, the immediate narrative after a plane goes down has been “No terrorist activity is suspected”, until yesterday, when Hussein’s Fundamentally Transformed America and others suddenly strongly suspect ISIS.
UK and US are ramping this up way too fast
seems like Pig boy Cameron and Jug Ears obama are itching for popular support to jump into miitary action in Syria .. To avenge Mother Russia’s loss of course ... And will use claims of intelligence of impending similar IS Doooom on a western airliner if they don’t invade Syria by air and by land and try to take away Putin’s momentum there
Almost too convenient, isn’t it?
The guy who knows what up is Putin. Watch him.
Also, the title is kind of misleading. They are not dismissing anything. They are considering all possibilities just as the U.S. and U.K. Are doing.
It was an explosion though, right?
I saw a report on CNN last night that bodies had metal fragments in them and burns.
Russia dismisses the idea that it was a bomb yet says it iabout to unleash the forces of hell on ISIS in retaliation. Are they assuming a missile? an American supplied (advertently or inadvertently) missile?
Russia dismisses the idea that it was a bomb yet says it is bout to unleash the forces of hell on ISIS in retaliation. Are they assuming a missile? an American supplied (advertently or inadvertently) missile?
They can dismiss all they want. ISIS done it. Bomb? High powered Russian-made missile? Whatever. Russia and Egypt don’t want to face ISIS on the ground, at least not for a while. Neither does anybody else.
I believe the Brits and US....Russia and Egypt have a vested interest to cover it up
A disinformation campaign aimed at Putin to undermine his public support in Russia.
Disaster RIGHT after they reached cruising altitude sounds a lot like a barometric switch.
Metal fragments inside bodies indicates very high-velocity Event.
Of course you’re “tending to believe Russia” big-time Putinista jerk-o that you are.
Posted By: TRT NEWS October 31, 2015
Prague, Czech Republic - Russia is orchestrating, coordinating, and funding the ongoing invasion of European countries by Muslim, military-age males, the Czech Defense Minister shared with IDNES.cz on October 10th, 2015.
According to Martin Stropnicky, the Defense Minister for the Czech Republic, he was informed by the Hungarian Defense Minister Istvan Simicsko that Russia was financing the busing of military-age Islamic males across the borders of the Balkan nations.
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Speculation has been rife for some time now that Russian forces have been plotting a ground invasion to retake the former satellite states of the Soviet Union, and eventually capturing the European capitals.
The overwhelming of these nations' borders, social services, and law enforcement mechanisms would destabilize and weaken the internal security controls when Russian military units would make their move.
"The Russian Federation does not desire a unified and cohesive European Union," Stropnicky said in the interview. "I do not envision the current invasion ceasing anytime soon."
As the Russian Federation has modernized its military forces and transformed its military theory to a hybrid combination of special forces, infantry, and airpower, it has made impressive advances in its latest generation tank and fighter jet, both of which purportedly claim to be superior to American counterparts. ..."
"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the "Russian special services have controlled" the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.
In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]
One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.
While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there's no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).
Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.
When you're dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn't often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don't exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.
While this isn't a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don't care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."
http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.
Do a Google search for Sharm el-Sheikh airport and security and you’ll get pages and pages of experiences with corrupt and incompetent security.
Very easy to have a package placed in the baggage compartment. Very tempting with a planeload of 100’s of Russians and a A321-200 jet with the extra fuel tanks in the rear of the aircraft to toss that package in the rear baggage compartment for Admiral Ackbar.
You are correct, Russia and Egypt dismissed PREMATURE SPECULATION and nothing more.
Isn’t there no-brainer technology to detect chemicals, residue,etc. from a bomb?
It is amazing how quickly the US came to this conclusion when the government never admits a bomb brings down one of ours.