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SAT's Racial Impact
Inside Higher Ed ^ | 10/27/2015

Posted on 10/27/2015 3:39:38 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: savagesusie

Every time I read one of your posts I respect you more.


61 posted on 10/28/2015 3:20:51 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: GOPJ

Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook fame just did the same think with, I believe, Newark. One of the New Jersey systems in any case.

Same result. 9-figures disappeared into the maw of the Government Education Complex, with no discernible outcome other than the money was gone.

You didn’t hear much about it.


62 posted on 10/28/2015 3:47:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thing, obviously. Never post before coffee.


63 posted on 10/28/2015 3:54:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Faith Presses On
It was too soon to expect that black children in general could catch up to children of other races, in so short a time, especially because they still faced many extra challenges.

How many generations will be needed? Keep in mind that we have East Asians coming in and being fully assimilated into the middle class within one or two generations.

64 posted on 10/28/2015 5:02:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
Well, surprise, surprise. Did it ever occur to the researchers that maybe rich people are rich because they're smarter than average? Or that smart parents tend to have smart kids? SAT scores correlate very highly with grades earned in college. In short, they do predict who will do well in college. What's wrong with that?

Logical knowledgeable people take all the fun out of these types of discussions... That said, thanks for sharing...

65 posted on 10/28/2015 9:22:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Imagine if the GOPe fought Dems as hard as they fight Repubs. - freeper bray)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’ve been in the middle of moving, but I’ll get back to you on this soon.


66 posted on 10/29/2015 3:09:10 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On

Take your time, I’ll be here. 8-)


67 posted on 10/30/2015 3:57:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Okay, it took me longer to get through with the work associated with moving, and I’m still not entirely finished, but I have some time now to reply, though not completely.

I wonder, first, if you also read my earlier post #54 in this thread.

- There are a lot of fallacies used when people believe or maintain that they are just “neutrally observing” that white people are superior to black people.

- And another factor in those fallacies is that people who believe they are “just making observations” often want to believe that white people are superior to black people. They’re invested in that belief, and if so, their hearts are not right within them, and the “logic” they are using is the fallacy of confirmation bias. They’re not disinterested, but want to see “science” confirm their prejudices. In a Christian sense, that should be the very last possible conclusion, and even then, it should be rejected on the basis of faith. What is the basis for a black person to have a choice over accepting Jesus as his or her Savior, and even to need a Savior, if somehow they are less capable of making choices? And are black people any less valuable to God?

- There is a current of racism that is still not only justifying discrimination against black people, but even defending their enslavement. Those justifications have simply never died, but have survived since the time of slavery. By saying that black people are inferior, or that they didn’t really suffer anything permanent (because no action has ever been taken to truly compensate them for slavery and discrimination), then that is saying that slavery really never did them any harm, and the claim behind that is because they are inferior. To put it another way, there has been racism against them that has been maintained, in an unbroken chain, since slavery. It always blames them, and never acknowledges the harms done to them, including through that unbroken chain of racism.


68 posted on 11/22/2015 6:27:18 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On

Blacks are not “inferior” as human beings. But repeated testing, both in the US and in Africa, shows that the median IQ scores of blacks is below the median IQ of whites. This does not mean that there are plenty of blacks (Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and others come to mind) who are smarter than me or you.


69 posted on 11/23/2015 4:05:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Meant to say “This does not mean that there AREN’T plenty of blacks (Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and others come to mind) who are smarter than me or you.”


70 posted on 11/23/2015 4:54:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

On IQ testing, then, if the Lord doesn’t return sometime in the next 500 years, what would you project about them, with respect to race?


71 posted on 11/23/2015 7:38:40 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On
On IQ testing, then, if the Lord doesn’t return sometime in the next 500 years, what would you project about them, with respect to race?

Currently, they are being told that the reason for a black person's lack of success is because of a grand racist conspiracy to keep blacks down. This is an unproductive viewpoint. It's better to focus on studying hard, working hard, and being diligent about making the best use of the opportunities you see, rather than going into a depressed funk, taking drugs, and dropping out of trying.

Additionally, the current affirmative-action insanity must end. To get "good numbers", top colleges are taking in people who are not prepared to succeed in that environment, and who will then fail and drop out -- people who WOULD have been successful in a lower-tier college which better matched their actual aptitudes. And the lower-tier colleges, to make THEIR numbers, are taking in people who are unqualified for THEM.

72 posted on 11/24/2015 4:16:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I didn’t forget our discussion. I’ve been working on a reply to you but haven’t had the time to finish it yet.


73 posted on 11/29/2015 4:37:28 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Faith Presses On

Take your time.


74 posted on 11/29/2015 4:44:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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