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To: niteowl77
You make some really good points....when I brought up some articles to read on Iowa, it was their corn, which I understand their position on it, and then the other thing is “they don't love Hillary, but they like her” , then you have it looks like, a strong woman's voter group, which isn't easy to run against....

So now I'm wondering if this is a ‘part’ of why the support for Carson...(I understand the super pacs coming together) but he's soft spoken, more liberal than conservative, could very well be some of reason they like him...but he won't beat Hillary, and that's why I'm supporting Trump....

19 posted on 10/25/2015 7:36:25 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Reminder: Hillary finished THIRD in the 2008 Iowa *Democrat* caucuses. There aren’t many ways to explain that away.

BTW, only about 10% of the Iowa work force is on farms.


20 posted on 10/25/2015 7:44:28 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: HarleyLady27
This isn't the same Iowa I grew up in and loved, so I feel almost like an outsider looking in nowadays, even though I still live here (for the time being). I don't think very highly of my "fellow Iowans" these days, so I'm not surprised when they act like the corn-fed dumb-asses that popular culture ascribes to them. Iowans of my great-grandparents' generation were far mare discerning of politicians than subsequent generations (possibly because they weren't fighting progressives in every sphere). The old timers may have literally had sh*t on their boots, but they loved their independence and they placed a high value on common sense… that includes most of the Democrats of that day.

When I refer to Iowans in general as the "booboisie," I'm not just recycling a Menckenism because I find it humorous. Iowans have been dumbed-down and beat-up since Harold F'ing Hughes became governor. Would a state with a majority of sentient beings make Tom Harkin a sentaror-for-life? Would a state of informed voters elect Tom Vilsack and then follow him up with Chet Culver, only to pull Terry Branstad out of well-deserved retirement to forestall a third Democrat in a row? No. A state full of easily-manipulated cattle would, though… and the most gullible livestock in the state forms great herds in places like Iowa City and Dubuque, where academia makes sure that young cattle learn to stay in their stalls while making fun of the livestock out in the meadow.

Ben Carson is the "anti-Trump du jour" for a GOP-e who knows very well what they are doing; they have finally settled down from their panic and are methodically coordinating their attacks. In addition to being a very convenient tabula rasa which the uninformed can place on a pedestal (much as Obama was presented), his magical storybook career in medicine makes him the natural choice of safety-pin Iowa Republicans who are secretly fed up with politicians but who don't want to offend anyone by supporting that "vulgarian" Trump.

IMHO, Carson is now pulling votes mostly from people who don't know a damned thing about him other than he got praise from the right for his prayer breakfast declaration, the fact that he's a celebrity neurosurgeon (and "best-selling author"), and he isn't Donald Trump. That's all the Club for Growth and the UCCofC and the GOP-e need from him… for now.

Mr. niteowl77

23 posted on 10/25/2015 8:53:23 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("The truth is that this thing is not worth fixing up anymore.")
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