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Carson surges past Trump in Iowa. [2nd poll Carson up big]
The Hill ^ | 10/23/2015 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 10/23/2015 4:23:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: GIdget2004

Carson is not the one folks...pay attention.


41 posted on 10/23/2015 5:23:52 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: GIdget2004

This is the 2nd Iowa poll now that shows Carson leading Trump fairly big. And another new polls shows Carson leading Trump and Rubio in Wisconsin.

So suddenly Carson is surging a bit and Trump is deflating. What caused it? I doubt this apparent change happened for no reason.

I wonder if maybe Trump’s swing through trutherville by blaming Bush for 9-11 soured many voters view of “the Donald”. I don’t think most Republicans and almost no conservatives want Jeb for President, but I do believe most still admire brother Bush for his handling of 9-11. Trump may have crossed a line that pushed a lot of Republican voters away from him.


42 posted on 10/23/2015 5:24:24 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: 9YearLurker
In the end, I don't believe American minorities identify themselves so exclusively with ‘democrats’ any longer, IF there is a minority running in the national election.

Their party is ‘minority’ ... just as women of ANY persuasion like the idea of a female President (albeit a hopelessly flawed, corrupt and fallible moron like Evita)... American ethnic minorities like the idea of an ethnic minority in the WH. They never DID comprehend the issues past 'what's in it for me', so-Carson looks good to them because he AIN'T white. In a way that's good... maybe now they will ACTUALLY THINK about what the candidates are saying.

It's come to THAT... issues don't seem to matter... It's all about race and gender. Pretty bonehaed if you ask me.

43 posted on 10/23/2015 5:25:49 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: BigEdLB; petercooper; VanDeKoik

Carson’s campaign faked his Facebook likes to catch up to Trump right before the last debate (then bragged about how many he had later!) H/T Proust

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3337624/posts?page=92


44 posted on 10/23/2015 5:27:51 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Jane Long

It’s Jeb’s Rove GOPe, not Carson pumping Carson’s numbers right now. They have to psych out Trump before the debate. Just like the fake Facebook likes came before the last debate.

BTW, notice how quickly the MSM dropped the story of Jeb’s “No Labels” staffer plant who asked Trump the GOPe scripted questions?

LOL.


45 posted on 10/23/2015 5:34:12 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: MarMema

So you are sure managing department politics in a hospital qualifies him to deal with Iran North Korea Russia and China plus deal with tens of millions of illegal immigrants, an annual US debt ceiling that has now reached $20 trillion with only $3 trillion in annual tax collection, and an economy due to be further decimated next year by obamacare falling on every business with 50 employees, Oh and to manage all this with the help of a U.S. Congress which is half completely partisan foaming at the mouth liberal democrats that will do everything possible to make him fail, and Republican who only care about keeping their desks.

Ooo Kay


46 posted on 10/23/2015 5:35:09 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

I will say this with the conviction of putting up a grand that if he is our nominee that the wicked witch from the north will steamroll him like a grasshopper. It will be the blowout like 84.


47 posted on 10/23/2015 5:36:01 AM PDT by biff
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To: SMARTY

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Also very insulting and patronizing toward blacks and women.


48 posted on 10/23/2015 5:36:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: petercooper

I have no problem believing it....point is why does anyone care what Iowa does. It has been show in the past that winning Iowa has nothing to do with ones electability.


49 posted on 10/23/2015 5:36:45 AM PDT by ontap
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To: All

Believe the polls you like and disbelieve the polls you don’t like. No problem.


50 posted on 10/23/2015 5:37:27 AM PDT by randita
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To: Longbow1969

I don’t think most conservatives get that upset at dissing Geo. W Bush!!!


51 posted on 10/23/2015 5:41:04 AM PDT by ontap
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To: GIdget2004
Ben Carson is currently the GOPe weapon of choice (whether he realizes it or not) to counter Trump. I've been hearing about how "nice" and "smart" Carson is for weeks now, and it is simply Iowa's Republican cattle being herded by the GOPe... with some help from evangelicals who couldn't tell wolves from sheep if they had their left butt cheeks bitten off and gotten polite thank you notes from the wolf rolled up and left in their sphincters. At this time, bloody few of these precious boobs have any idea what Carson actually says or thinks, he's simply "that nice man" whose name they keep hearing.

Trump still has more Dem and Indy support than I would have believed possible, and I'm not too sure he isn't still out front in Iowa by a fair amount (regardless of these polls), but he is being hammered on by the GOPe out here. You certainly know who he's scaring the USCofC poop out of.

Mr. niteowl77

52 posted on 10/23/2015 5:43:43 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("I wish I had better news for you, but the truth is that this thing is not worth fixing anymore.")
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To: Longbow1969

Dedicated Trump hater and DC establishment troll.
The WI poll was a NPR poll of 600 NPR listeners people being peddled by Murdoch smear media Newsmax.
It was pretty much garbage hit.
It’s good to know your a Bushbot Pro Amnesty troll too.


53 posted on 10/23/2015 5:44:02 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: ontap
The poster is a Bushbot Amnesty Troll.
54 posted on 10/23/2015 5:44:53 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: randita
Do you post anything but Trump hate here ?

Are you a paid DC Jebbie establishment troll like Bert ?

55 posted on 10/23/2015 5:46:23 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: napscoordinator
Let's insert president Ben Carson into any single one of the crises now afflicting our country and imagine right now today how he would deal with it. Just one. Dealing with Afghanistan, for example. Just for this week Carson is president. What does he do?

Now let's put him in charge of every crisis going on. Right now.

Who are his advisors? Right now. He never built or ran a business so who is advising him on the economy? Who has he consulted on managing the economy? How about National defense? Did he ever command a military force? Which of his advisors has top level military experience? What is his strategic nuclear strategy?

Immigration? What happens the day Ben Carson becomes President?

Black lives matter? What's he going to do? He's from Baltimore. Did he show any leadership ship there or have any suggestions? Dude wants to be president. Did he offer his presence to the mayor or police?

Can you name any of Carson's advisors that give us a clue who he's going to have for a cabinet?

Other than standing meekly at the last debate like he was stoned and observing the other candidates argue, what stood out about Ben Carson?

56 posted on 10/23/2015 5:46:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

30 years. Pediatric neurosurgery.

That’s a lot more than managing department politics.

Plus international treks as a world-renowned pioneer in twin separation.
Plus 20 hour stints standing in the OR leading an exhausted team in a very emotional experience.

Self discipline. Leadership. Split second life and death trauma decision making for *children* which always ups the ante in medicine.

Call a lawyer at 3 am and demand a coherent and complete defense strategy be laid out right this minute.

I’m not saying he is the best choice. Just that people who don’t work in medicine are selling him way way short. Have you seen his prayer breakfast speech from 2013?


57 posted on 10/23/2015 5:48:18 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Sontagged

Yep. The Bushbots on here don’t want to see Trumps numbers with Indy and Dem crossovers or against Dems.

Yeah, funny how LSM dropped the flakey intern story.


58 posted on 10/23/2015 5:49:12 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: MarMema

No, haven’t seen his speech from 3 years ago at a prayer breakfast.

Have the Iranians watched it?

How about the Chinese?


59 posted on 10/23/2015 5:50:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: GIdget2004; petercooper
This poll was designed to get Ben Carson ahead of Donald Trump. Bloomberg and the Des Moines Register asked a serious of questions that are overwhelmingly favorable for Carson.

It's a big time push poll:


60 posted on 10/23/2015 5:51:55 AM PDT by Red Steel
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