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Trump and 9/11
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/21/15 | Daniel Henninger

Posted on 10/22/2015 6:11:34 AM PDT by Stingray51

...Mr. Trump said in the most recent version of his thoughts on 9/11: “Look, Jeb said we were safe with my brother. We were safe. Well, the World Trade Center just fell down.” ...

For Donald Trump to suggest in his syntactically vague fashion that former President George W. Bush bears blame for Sept. 11, which occurred nine months after he assumed office; or for Donald Trump to revisit 9/11 to promote his thoughts on immigration, is frankly disgusting.

His remark about President Bush is an utter falsity, and it demeaned the reality of what happened that day.

In this week’s Wall Street Journal/NBC poll of Republican presidential preferences, Mr. Trump sits on top with 25%. The polling suggests that this 25% spreads across many layers of the electorate. We are exploring the outer limits of how much falsity America’s “angry” people will choke down. ... Donald Trump fits for now, but poorly. He isn’t the leader of a movement. He’s an impresario of sensations. Reducing 9/11 to a political prop was indeed sensational. It was also beyond the pale.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; tds; trump
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1. If 9/11 had happened 8 months after Clinton or Obama had taken office, would the Wall Street Journal find it "disgusting" to assign some of the blame to the president in office at the time?

2. While 8 months is not very long, the office of president is something you assume ready to go. I don't recall candidates ever saying 'give four years' and after the first year, I'll do a great job.' Fair or not, the buck stops with the president from day one.

3. Most importantly, policies that Bush and his crowd supported for years before he became he president did play a large role in 9/11 being able to happen. Specifically, their cozying up to the Saudis and their disinterest in tough immigration enforcement allowed the visas for the hijackers to be issued and the visas to be overstayed. And of course JEB! was governor when Florida issued driver's licenses to a number of the attackers.

4. Trump has said repeatedly that he is not blaming GWB for 9/11 only pointing out that JEB!'s assertion that 'my brother kept us safe' was not entirely accurate.

1 posted on 10/22/2015 6:11:34 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51

yeah, you go ahead and use twisted logical nonsense and pretzel like morality to justify using LEFT WING TALKING POINTS as a, cough cough, “conservative” hero.

Go ahead.


2 posted on 10/22/2015 6:12:59 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You are correct. This is left wing revisionism regurgitated by the right, and Trump is wrong on this. I remember 911 and the months leading up to it.


3 posted on 10/22/2015 6:15:12 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Stingray51

Daniel Henninger is a Dem, a more moderate Rat, but a Rat nevertheless.


4 posted on 10/22/2015 6:18:11 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: Stingray51

You’re right. Trump is a birther and a 9/11 truther.


5 posted on 10/22/2015 6:33:05 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Stingray51

‘Only 9 months in office’ .....

How long has the CIA been in operation prior to GWBush coming to office?
How long has the ‘threat analysis office’ of whatever agency been in operation before GWB?


6 posted on 10/22/2015 6:34:10 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: KC_Conspirator

Really, it’s hard to say Bush was president for 8 months. As most of us remember, the Left wouldn’t concede that Bush had won the election. There are many good reasons for Jeb not to be the nominee. That there is no left wing type of slander Trump won’t stoop to destroy his opposition speaks to his character, a birther and a 9/11 truther.


7 posted on 10/22/2015 6:35:17 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
You are correct. This is left wing revisionism regurgitated by the right, and Trump is wrong on this.

This is my problem with Trump. He has spewed left wing revisionist crap about 9-11, about the Fannie-Freddie led economic crash, and some other issues, all to hurt Jeb. It's foolish. Hurt Jeb from THE RIGHT (like he's doing on immigration) - but NOT from the left. This supports my thesis that Trump is in fact a creature of the left, who has very recently moved right on some issues.

If this were not the case, I'd be a big supporter. It is the case, and thus I'm not.

8 posted on 10/22/2015 6:37:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Stingray51

As the Republican nominee Bush gets security briefings so the 8 months to get ready is really closer to a year to get ready. Trump did not blame Bush he merely correctly pointed out to Jeb that 911 happened on W watch so Jeb claim the W kept us safe has a big (3,000 dead) hole in it. W’s open borders policies were not helpful either.


9 posted on 10/22/2015 6:46:04 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Stingray51
If Jeb didn't want all this shoved back down his throat, he shouldn't have said anything, but there you go, he's a Bush, what do you expect?

The GOPee thinks this idiot is their poster child, well we'll see about that...they have forgotten that WE the people are deciding this election this time, NOT THEM...so take your poster child and go back home, WE the PEOPLE OF AMERICA have this handled from here....

We have had crap shoved down our throats since Reagan has left office, the lies, the back stabbing, all of it and WE the people are TIRED of it....BACK OFF and take your idiots with you!!!

10 posted on 10/22/2015 6:55:32 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You’re chasing the GOPe squirrel.

Yeb! said W kept us safe.
Trump points out an inconvenient fact.

It’s that simple.


11 posted on 10/22/2015 6:59:38 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Stingray51

Is this Free Republic or did I stumble into a MSNBC board. Is that you Chris Matthews.


12 posted on 10/22/2015 7:04:13 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Stingray51

Is Trump getting his talking points from Michael Moore now?

I really don’t think his shtick is going to last till even Iowa/New Hampshire.

Trump won’t likely be the nominee. If he is, I will vote for him because he’s better than what the Democrats have on offer, but I will go the polling booth knowing not only is he not really a conservative, but also that he would almost certainly lose - and lose badly.


14 posted on 10/22/2015 7:16:50 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: gusty
Is this Free Republic or did I stumble into a MSNBC board. Is that you Chris Matthews.

Well, Trump is using left wing talking points - sometimes radical left wing conspiracy lunacy. Trumpsters will support anything "the Donald" says or does, so yes, FR is beginning to sound more and more like some Democrat site. It shouldn't be a surprise considering the Trump brigades are supporting a guy who has spend much of his life as a Democrat, donating to Democrats, praising Democrats, etc, etc.

15 posted on 10/22/2015 7:20:26 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: flaglady47

Have you mentioned Trump’s “reign” any more since yesterday?


16 posted on 10/22/2015 7:29:07 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Longbow1969

What I am starting to understand is that what you and I considered Conservative, you know that smaller government, economic growth kind of stuff, is not what most so-called conservatives had in mind.


17 posted on 10/22/2015 7:29:21 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Stingray51
If 9/11 had happened 8 months after Clinton or Obama had taken office, would the Wall Street Journal find it "disgusting" to assign some of the blame to the president in office at the time?

They very well might, and they should.

I think you can make a case that in the 8 months that Bush was in prior to the attack, we weren't sufficiently prepared. But I think 9/11 had much more to do with the prior 8 years than with those 8 months.

18 posted on 10/22/2015 7:32:48 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Stingray51

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425866/donald-trump-9-11-george-w-bush


19 posted on 10/22/2015 7:33:23 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Stingray51

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102015-776560-trump-accuses-bush-of-knowing-about-911-attacks.htm?p=full


20 posted on 10/22/2015 7:33:42 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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