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Judge: Texas may deny birth certificates to immigrants' kids
Yahoo ^ | 10/16/2015

Posted on 10/16/2015 8:42:54 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

A federal judge has chosen for now not to force Texas health officials to change their stance in denying birth certificates to immigrant families with U.S- born children, saying that the families raised "grave concerns" but more evidence is needed, according to a ruling issued Friday.

U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman in Austin denied an emergency injunction on behalf of immigrant families seeking birth certificates for their children after the Department of State Health Services refused to recognize as valid certain forms of identification.

The families' lawyers had asked for the judge to intervene, saying that the children's right to health care, travel, and schooling--along with parental rights--are being harmed.

Pitman called the arguments of the families "heartfelt, compelling and persuasive," but said that this was "not enough without substantiating evidence to carry the burden necessary to grant relief," according to the ruling.

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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Good. Go back. You are NOT WELCOME.


21 posted on 10/16/2015 10:16:24 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: MeshugeMikey
Ted Cruz and elected US Senator Is FROM Texas....ya dont suppose that the OTHER good people in Texas had a Little to do with this?

Why have you waited until citizens are on the brink of becoming a minority in their own state?

22 posted on 10/16/2015 10:44:52 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: itsahoot

why have I....waited??


23 posted on 10/16/2015 10:54:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Buckwheat is gonna get all wee weed up.


24 posted on 10/16/2015 11:05:14 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: dp0622

The law that made children born on American soil citizens was done for the former slaves’ children, not for illegals to dump a kid here.

Congress should have written the Amendment better..

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


25 posted on 10/16/2015 11:26:51 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

These illegals are “claiming” that their children were born in Texas, but cannot produce any proof. They are just trying to scam the system.

County hospitals in Dallas and Tarrant Counties EACH deliver around 10-15 thousand babies to ILLEGALS each year. Same is probably true for other major Counties in Texas.

Kids born in TX hospitals get a birth certificate.


26 posted on 10/17/2015 2:18:49 AM PDT by octex
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To: Lurking Libertarian

What spin!

Texas will not issue the birth certs because there is NO PROOF the kids were born in TX. All hospitals here issue birth certs.


27 posted on 10/17/2015 2:25:00 AM PDT by octex
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To: meadsjn

If the consulates can issue these “matriculas consulares” for the illegal alien parents, they can also issue birth certificates for the illegal alien babies spawned by the same parents — because the babies are citizens of their parents’ native country.
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Absolutely correct!


28 posted on 10/17/2015 2:28:33 AM PDT by octex
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To: tallyhoe

Tell the parents the baby can stay and be placed in foster care but they have no right to be here.


29 posted on 10/17/2015 2:33:29 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: tallyhoe

wow. that leaves our side in a quandary. pretty darn specific


30 posted on 10/17/2015 3:47:22 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

It’s about time!


31 posted on 10/17/2015 3:48:10 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: All
A sworn affidavit by Mexico’s consul general to a Texas court admits that Mexico’s official policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access the US’s generous welfare system......declaring that “Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.”

This explosive document filed in Texas by the government of Mexico adds fuel to the debate touched off by Donald Trump.....

THE MONEY QUOTE A footnote states that “Mexican nationality is granted to children born abroad of a Mexican born parent.” IOW, anchor babies born in the US retain their parents’ Mexican nationality.

A sworn affidavit by Mexico’s consul general admits that Mexico’s official policy is to encourage its poor people to migrate here illegally in order to access the US’s generous welfare system......declaring that “Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing,”

The Mexican consul’s sworn testimony asserts that “My responsibilities in this position include protecting the rights and promoting the interests of my fellow Mexican nationals” and “The main responsibility of consulates is to provide services, assistance, and protection to nationals abroad.”

Ergo, Mexico’s assertion of continuing jurisdiction over its “nationals abroad,” is inconsistent with any claim to automatic US citizenship merely by reason of birth on US soil.

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MEXICO IS SLOBBERING AT THE US PUBLIC TROUGH The "impoverished" Mexicans here send BILLIONS of US tax dollars collected under multiple identities BACK to Mexico. The federales are getting a huge cut of that. Prolly Mexico also gets a fee for letting other countries use their border as a gathering place to slither into the US.

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Trump accurately tells Americans oil-rich Mexcio is ripping us off royally......and is pocketing billions from deal after deal. This is in addition to millions in US foreign aid to "help" them w/ then the drug cartel problem.

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NOW GIMMEE THIS AGAIN Mexico's official policy is to send their impoverished classes over the border to ride the US gravy train...but declares that “Mexico is responsible to protect its nationals wherever they may be residing.”

OK....comprende, amigo.

Now tally up the welfare bill and send it to Mexico.

32 posted on 10/17/2015 4:12:07 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
REFERENCE --- Texas took the lead together w/ 26 state AG's, successfully arguing that Obama's beatified DACA/DAPA's were made more desirable employees than US citizens.

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REFERENCE --- In his ruling that upended Obama's plans to shield millions from deportation, U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen faulted Obama for not giving public notice. The failure to do so was a violation of the 1946 Administrative Procedure Act, which requires notice in the Federal Register as well as an opportunity for people to submit views in writing, Hanen ruled.

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REFERENCE --- The Hobbs Act could be invoked if proof is established that officials on the public payroll used criminal means (committed felonies by accepting falsified documents) to enrich illegals w/ welfare benefits.....thus impairing the region's economic stability.

33 posted on 10/17/2015 4:19:24 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Tennessee Nana; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; Jane Long; notted; Squantos; no-to-illegals

ping


34 posted on 10/17/2015 4:21:17 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Mariner

Kudos to the people of Texas, their State government..

AND.....the TRUMP EFFECT!!!!!!.....woot!


35 posted on 10/17/2015 5:04:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Liz
Now tally up the welfare bill and send it to Mexico.

I said it before on this site many times. Charge Mexico (and others) for every illegal, $2000/month, for the price of doing "business" with the USA. Make it more of a loss than a gain for our southern neighbors. If this were indeed enforceable, the federales would protect our southern border for us.

36 posted on 10/17/2015 6:46:29 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Amen.


37 posted on 10/17/2015 6:49:24 AM PDT by Liz
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

This is not a federal matter


38 posted on 10/17/2015 8:33:40 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: 1035rep

That is what I say too they the Parents have to go home!!! No welfare


39 posted on 10/17/2015 11:17:09 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: dp0622

wow. that leaves our side in a quandary. pretty darn specific

That is what happens when your not specific enough when you write laws and Amendments to the Constitution!!!


40 posted on 10/17/2015 11:18:49 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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