Texas can refuse to issue birth certificates to illegals’ parents: court

The Washington Times ^ | October 16, 2015 | Stephen Dinan

[jazusamo]

Mexican IDs ruled insecure documents

Texas officials may continue to refuse to issue birth certificates to illegal immigrant parents who aren’t able to show valid identification, a federal court ruled Friday, dealing a major blow to Mexican advocates who’d said the policy was in effect stripping them of citizenship.

Judge Robert L. Pitman said the Matricula Consular cards issued by Mexican consulates to their citizens in the U.S. — chiefly to those in the country illegally — aren’t secure, so Texas is able to refuse to accept them as primary identification when a parent requests a birth certificate.

The court said that could change if the challengers are able to offer more evidence, but for now the judge ruled Texas can continue to insist on secure documents, and to refuse to accept the Matricula Consular cards as primary ID.

“Although the plaintiffs have provided evidence which raises grave concerns regarding the treatment of citizen children born to immigrant parents, this case requires additional determinations which can be made only upon development and presentation of an evidentiary record which thoroughly explores the facts and circumstances of the issues raised in this case,” Judge Pitman, sitting in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, wrote in a 27-page order.

The case comes at a time when birthright citizenship — the automatic grant of American citizenship to most persons born on U.S. soil, including to illegal immigrant mothers — has become a hot political topic. The case doesn’t directly challenge that policy, though the plaintiffs said the effect of not being able to obtain their children’s birth certificates was the same as having citizenship denied.

[jazusamo]

Good for Texas and Judge Pitman.

[Dacula]

Praise God. Finally some sanity in this world.

[harwood]

Obammy lawsuit in 3..2..1..

[stocksthatgoup]

How many states are issuing Birth Certificates to Illegals and saying the individual(s) are born here?

[jazusamo]

No doubt about it, Bambam and his La Raza buddies won’t be happy.

[dp0622]

Feds will be there soon.

I hope Texas fights them every step of the way.

[Milton Miteybad]

From the article: "The case doesn’t directly challenge that policy, though the plaintiffs said the effect of not being able to obtain their children’s birth certificates was the same as having citizenship denied.

Not at all. The children have the same citizenship as that of their parents. The children are indeed citizens of somewhere...maybe not the U.S., but if nothing else, they would be able to claim the same citizenship and dear old Mom and Dad.

[rfreedom4u]

YES!!!!

[corbe]

In 2009, Republican Senators John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison sent Pitman's name to Democratic President Barack Obama as one of two candidates for United States Attorney for the Western District of Texas.[6][7] The recommendation of Pitman, who is openly gay, was publicly opposed by a social conservative group in Texas.[6][7] On June 27, 2011, almost two years after Pitman was recommended for the post, Obama notified members of congress that he would nominate Pitman to be United States Attorney for the Western District of Texas.[8] He was formally nominated the following day.[9]

wiki thing

even a broken clock.......

[jazusamo]

Bump.

[Secret Agent Man]

Entire fedgov - i mean all of it - needs total dissolving and rebuilding to small constitutional limits.

[umgud]

I hope this spreads to many other states.

[jazusamo]

Please bump the Freepathon or click above to donate or become a monthly donor!

[Himyar]

God bless Texas!

[dp0622]

YEP!!!

I dont even want Trump or Cruz to save us with the fed gov that is in place.

I want it dismantled and then rebuild only the essentials

[MeanWestTexan]

Interesting.

I was listed on the birth certificate of a child whose mother read about me in the newspaper and she wanted her kid to have a rich father. I had not only never slept with her; I’d never met her.

She was on welfare and I suddenly got all these bills for child support.

Cost me upwards of $20K to get off the hook after DNA and lawyers (and a pissed wife who didn’t believe me for a bit).

[dp0622]

Well, let’s see, in NYC, i was outnumbered by my fellow workers, oh, 30 or 40 to 1 dem vs conservative.

but some would whisper to me in dark corners that they agreed with what i said lol

[Lurking Libertarian]

Not at all. The children have the same citizenship as that of their parents. The children are indeed citizens of somewhere...maybe not the U.S., but if nothing else, they would be able to claim the same citizenship and dear old Mom and Dad.

We are talking here about children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrant parents. Under the current statute, those children are U.S. citizens.

There may be some debate about whether the 14th Amendment requires that result or not, but until Congress changes the law, we will never know. Under current law, those children are U.S. citizens.

Texas is not denying the children's citizenship; the issue in the lawsuit is what ID the parents need to show to prove they are in fact the parents of that child.

[jazusamo]

What a nightmare to have to go through. Thank the Lord for DNA, before that technology it surely would have been worse.

[Texan5]

Good! A consular card does not mean their kid gets a US birth certificate-back in a safer time, my husband and I had consular tourist cards and drove to the interior for vaca each summer-but that didn’t mean our cub got a Mexican birth certificate-ridiculous...