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Hillary drops 19 points … in California?
Hotair ^ | 10/07/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 10/07/2015 5:21:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Republicans shouldn’t get their hopes up on this Field poll from California, at least not in terms of competing in the Golden State. Democrats, however, may find yet another reason to hit the panic button over Hillary Clinton’s chances nearly everywhere else. Over the summer, Hillary has dropped 19 points in the Field series, and now has below 50% support in the progressive stronghold, reports David Siders for the Sacramento Bee:

Hillary Rodham Clinton remains 12 percentage points ahead of the surging Bernie Sanders, according to a new Field Poll, but her support among likely Democratic voters in California has plummeted.

The poll, released Wednesday, reflects Clinton’s weakened but still-frontrunner status nationally in the presidential primary. The California measure is striking in contrast to the overwhelming support Clinton previously enjoyed in this heavily Democratic state.

Not only has Clinton lost ground to Sanders in California, nearly two-thirds of likely Democratic voters say it would be good for the party if Vice President Joe Biden entered the race – though they would not necessarily support him.

Clinton, struggling with ongoing controversy surrounding her use of personal email while secretary of state, dropped 19 percentage points in the poll from May, to 47 percent. Sanders, who polled in single digits five months ago, shot up 26 percentage points, to 35 percent.

The one saving point for Hillary is the sample size. Although the overall sample was of 1,002 registered voters, the sample of likely Democratic primary voters was 391 — not bad for most statewide polling, but perhaps a bit thin for a state the size of California. That should produce a ±5% margin of error, again not bad, but perhaps a little less solid than other polling with larger sample sizes.

At any rate, the drop from May for Hillary falls far outside the MOE. The rise for Sanders is actually more dramatic, at 26 points from a distant 9% in May. Reuters notes the rise of dissatisfaction among California Democrats with the choices so far, and points out that Joe Biden isn’t exactly the panacea either:

The poll also found less enthusiasm for Clinton as the party’s nominee and that 63 percent of likely voters believed it would be a good thing if Vice President Joe Biden were to enter the race.

However only 15 percent of likely voters said they would back Biden in the June primary if he were to enter the race, an apparent contradiction that DiCamillo said was explained by Democrats’ frustration over a primary season that had seen their candidates overshadowed by a larger, noisier Republican race.

“What that says to me is that Democratic voters really would like the opportunity to see their candidate against any and all comers, and Biden would certainly be welcomed into race,” he said. “That might turn more attention to the Democratic primary.”

Democrats still are at almost no risk of losing California in November 2016. If they lose California, they’d probably do so on the way to a 45-state loss, and these calculations would be of little consequence. However, they point out two distinct problems, one in the state, and the other nationally. Democrats come to California not to fret over the state’s 55 electoral votes, which last went to Republicans in 1988, but to raise cash and set national narratives. California and New York are a Democratic nominee’s ATMs, both in large and small donors.

The second problem is the ebbing enthusiasm for the presumptive nominee, and the general dissatisfaction among Democratic voters. This rise in frustration bodes very ill for Democrats if Hillary wins the nomination and fails to energize these ground troops. Those dynamics will get echoed in states much less safe for Democrats, especially after eight years of Democratic control of the White House and a Clinton rerun as the only alternative. These voters may not switch to the GOP, but they may not turn out or get engaged on the ground either — and that was really the main difference for Obama in 2012.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2016; california; campaign; clinton; hillary

1 posted on 10/07/2015 5:21:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

She is now 81%.


2 posted on 10/07/2015 5:22:56 PM PDT by sagar
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To: sagar

According to the news:

“Hillary has dropped 19 points in the Field series, and now has below 50% support in the progressive stronghold”


3 posted on 10/07/2015 5:25:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Hillary's new campaign song.

Slip sliding away

4 posted on 10/07/2015 5:29:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats are not enthusiastic about another term of the Clintons in the White House.

But Bernie Sanders is an open explicit socialist. Can he realistically win a national election, even though he is exciting the liberal radical base of the Democrats???

Stay tuned. Hillary is not going to have a coronation. She may feel entitled to a Democrat coronation after all Bill Clinton put her through, but clearly Democrat voters have other thoughts.


5 posted on 10/07/2015 5:30:52 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: UCANSEE2

Ding, dong....


6 posted on 10/07/2015 5:33:10 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a guess, but I’d bet the some of the most PO’d angry voters are within California’s borders. They’ve been conned, hookwinked, lied to and politically abandoned by traitorous insiders, politicians, and leftist academia in CA. They’ve watched CA declined from America’s crown jewel into a 3rd rate state, while the politicians taxed CA into oblivion while helping flood CA with millions of illegals and endless conga-lines of foreigners.


7 posted on 10/07/2015 5:35:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind
Field poll? Ha!

I once responded to a telephone Field Poll back in 1988 (I no longer respond to polls of any kind, btw.) The caller did everything she could to steer me away from my pro GHWB choice, and was not at all happy with any of my responses. The poll-questioner was opinionated to the point of trying to guide my responses, both in the forms of the questions and the followup.

One most strongly, strongly suspects that the alleged Field Poll is angling for socialist Sanders, and will fudge the responses and numbers as they can.

(Not that I give a darn about Hillary Rhodam (Clinton's) primary campaign).

8 posted on 10/07/2015 5:37:52 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just shows how far gone my home state is, Hillary Clinton isn’t Commie enough for this state..if they could dig up Mao and have him run he would win in a landslide


9 posted on 10/07/2015 5:39:27 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

Hillaryous Rotten Criminal drops 19? She still looks too heavy.


10 posted on 10/07/2015 5:40:49 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: dragnet2
Good post.

You still living there?

11 posted on 10/07/2015 5:45:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama practices "religion" in the mirror.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember thinking two years ago that she’s not even a viable candidate, it’s just that everyone is either scared of her or wants a woman President (or both). If you really looked at her resume, along with the drip-drip scandals, she doesn’t have a chance. Yes, all the progressives will vote for her. Many of the moderates will either not vote or vote for a Republican. She never had a chance but is still being propped up by the media, can you imagine how they’d be treating her if she was a Republican?

In this age we have access to so much information, far more than can be controlled. The main problem the Democrats have is that they have no viable alternative, and no, I don’t think Bernie has a chance either. Who’s next? Mueller?


12 posted on 10/07/2015 6:10:48 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: dragnet2

“Just a guess, but I’d bet the some of the most PO’d angry voters are within California’s borders.”

You have NO IDEA just how pi$$ed a lot of us are! And all of you had better buddy up to the idea that this is happening in your state right now!


13 posted on 10/07/2015 6:27:29 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: fuzzylogic

In a perverse way, the RATs now have their “it’s my turn candidate.” She will go the way of Bob Dole and John McLame and the Dodo (pardon me Whacko) Bird.


14 posted on 10/07/2015 6:31:03 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

“Those dynamics will get echoed in states much less safe for Democrats, especially after eight years of Democratic control of the White House and a Clinton rerun as the only alternative.”

Incredible to think that this beotch or a hard-core Socialist is their only hope! Maybe Uncle Joe? Yikes?

“These voters may not switch to the GOP, but they may not turn out or get engaged on the ground either — and that was really the main difference for Obama in 2012.”

And the GOPe and the Enemy Media giving us McLame and then Romney made MANY Conservatives sit the last one out (I held my nose and voted) which gave us another 0bama term.

It’s madness all the way around.


15 posted on 10/07/2015 6:33:18 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: vette6387
Yes I have a good idea regarding the mood. You'll have to trust me here. The "Just a guess" had tongue-in-cheek behind it. On the rest of your comment about something happening now, it's been coming and getting worse for decades.☺ Btw, you might want to slow down a bit with the wild insinuations.
16 posted on 10/07/2015 8:02:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

17 posted on 10/07/2015 10:22:23 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: SeekAndFind

18 posted on 10/07/2015 10:24:04 PM PDT by Bon mots
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