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Northwoods dog owners remember dog killed by wolves
WJFW ^ | 09/30/2015

Posted on 10/05/2015 11:01:19 AM PDT by SJackson

BOULDER JUNCTION - People often feel like their pets are members of their family.

Teri Winter and Jimmy Dean Van Rossum felt that way about their dog Bella.

Earlier this week, Bella was killed by wolves.

The only thing they found of Bella was blood and fur.

"They didn't even leave a bone, we can't find her collar," says Winter.

On Monday night, Van Rossum let Bella out to go to the bathroom at his home in Boulder Junction.

She never came back.

"She was in her woods, her yard, going to the bathroom," Winter says.

That's when wolves got Bella.

Four pet dogs have been killed by wolves in Wisconsin in 2015.

Many other hunting dogs have been killed as well.

Wolves were returned to the federal endangered species list earlier this year.

That leaves some pet owners frustrated.

"A wolf is going to attack my other dog and I can't shoot it? And I'm going to go to jail for it? Put me in jail," Van Rossum said.

"My dog was totally innocent and was brutally killed for no reason," Winter says.

For now, Winter and Van Rossum will remember how much they loved their dog.

"She was a rescue dog, and she was a mutt, and she was great, and she was a family dog, and she was a lover," says Winter.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: doggieping; sss; wolves
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To: SJackson
They need a few of these:

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21 posted on 10/05/2015 11:57:09 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: wrench

That didn’t work out well at all, since coyotes filled the void that left, have overpopulated and are out of control-they do not avoid humans the way wolves do. If an animal species is over populating, then have a hunting season, like we do for deer, birds, bear, etc-animals that overpopulate become unhealthy and starve-there is a season on wolves in Alaska and a few other places to keep them at a healthy number in the scheme of things-if you wipe out a species, another one that you will like less is guaranteed to move right in...


22 posted on 10/05/2015 12:00:10 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've giot to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Yotes are not as big a threat to humans and livestock as wolves are. Not a zero threat, just not as bad.

If the dogooders would leave folks alone, yotes could start to disappear as well.


23 posted on 10/05/2015 12:02:39 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Jeff Chandler

One of my neighbors has two of those that guard his goats when they are in the pasture-they are very friendly to humans they know, and have nearly knocked me off my feet leaning into me to be petted-isn’t it called an Anatolian Shepherd?


24 posted on 10/05/2015 12:04:40 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've giot to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Anatolian Shepherd Dog. They were bred to guard flocks and herds in Turkey, to go out away from the flock, seek out and kill predators before they could prey upon the flock. Two or three of these can easily fend off wolves.


25 posted on 10/05/2015 12:10:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: glorgau

Outdoor cats are clawed rabbits to a coyote.


26 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:38 PM PDT by zek157
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To: wrench

There are no more wolves here because early settlers didn’t have any knowledge of wildlife/game management-so coyotes get into huge packs and have even been known to take down grown cattle for food when no precautions are taken to monitor them. A lot of ranchers keep llamas to guard livestock from coyotes, because they are mean as hell and dangerous-they can kick and trample even a human to death.

We have mountain lions, but they are quite happy to dine on deer, small game etc-and any unlucky pet running loose. They seldom go for livestock, probably because there are plenty of deer, and they just don’t like going around where humans are for a meal.

Wildlife needs to be managed to be healthy-both predator and prey-the people who don’t get that are not dogooders, they are willfully ignorant-and so are folks who want to wipe out an entire species. Game wardens here are hired for keeping a healthy balance of the wildlife population-and that includes hunting season(s) for any species when the population reaches a certain level, no matter what the doogooders say....


27 posted on 10/05/2015 12:27:09 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've giot to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Never heard of them. What a beautiful dog.


28 posted on 10/05/2015 12:27:53 PM PDT by j.havenfarm
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To: SJackson

SSS and don’t post the pictures on FB.


29 posted on 10/05/2015 12:54:15 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Texan5

Game wardens are power hungry JBTs.

The best ways to manage wolves and yotes is .223, and lots of it.

Early settlers knew way better than the city pansies how to manage the land.


30 posted on 10/05/2015 1:07:30 PM PDT by wrench
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To: AAABEST

They can forbid me but that hardly stops me.


31 posted on 10/05/2015 1:32:48 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: wrench

I do not know where you are, but we do not consider our game wardens JBTs, far from it-they are country dwellers, mostly graduates of A&M or another ag college, and must have a degree in an animal science-they are primarily wildlife managers-a cousin has been a game warden in West Texas for over 30 years, and one of them is a neighbor of mine. They count all the deer and other game and other animals, and monitor the condition of each species all year-the number of tags on your hunting license for each species of animal is based on that count and condition-the more animals in the herd, the more tags I get to harvest deer, dove, etc.

My varmint gun is a plain vanilla .22, but my deer rifle is a .270. The only time I ever fired a .223 was when one of my uncles let me hunt deer with his on a weekend in the season-I was 13 or so, but I remember it was a nice gun.

And city pansies don’t know how to manage anything-including the cities they built and live in-which is one reason I choose not to live within 40 miles of one-but early settlers didn’t have any way to understand that if they upset the animal applecart, eventually there would not be enough of one species or another to eat. Europe was already getting pretty depleted at the time people started coming over here in the 16th-17th century-my family was part of that exodus-yours probably was, too. Freedom and having enough food to eat is a powerful motivator, but they didn’t know crap about game management-in the old or new world...

There used to be herds buffalo/bison all over the plains, and plenty of wild pigeons just over 100 years ago-both sources of food...


32 posted on 10/05/2015 2:06:22 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've giot to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: MeganC
They can forbid me but that hardly stops me.

Yup. In FL, locals pay zero attention to federal protections on gators. Their pets and toddlers come before some giant predatory lizard with a brain the size of a marble.

33 posted on 10/05/2015 2:23:07 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Texan5

The wardens in the SE states I used to hunt are not outdoors-men or interested in heritage, hunting, game management or fostering the love of the outdoors in future generations.

My experiences are Ga, NC, SC. Of those states I have a lifetime hunting license in 2.

What I have experienced is nothing but badge heavy law enforcement officers, not game management folks.

You can look up the warden that took a 223 between the eyes when he was trying to entrap 2 (legal) night hunters several years ago. It was on State land on the Ocmulgee River in Jasper co Ga.

The hunters screwed up by trying to hide evidence, otherwise they would have been in the clear.

I can’t count the times I have had wardens act like an ass in front of young hunters (many their first time out with their Dad), and totally screw these kids attitude toward authority and wildlife.

The rise in nuisance yote population and feral hog populations in the SE coincides with the emergence of aggressive game warden enforcement. They are out to make arrests, not participate in game or game lands management.

And these same wardens cross train and assist in drug busts/swat raids with local LEO depts. It is any wonder why they act like jerks?


34 posted on 10/05/2015 2:36:49 PM PDT by wrench
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To: SJackson

I live in a subdivision that is close to undeveloped wooded property and a river. Even though I’m in the middle of a cul-de-sac, there is no way I will let my dogs out after dusk. I have seen coyote and bobcat in the neighborhood, and a 6 ft privacy fence will not keep them out. Skunk, too.

The place where I board my dogs is in a rural area. They have a very large area for the dogs to play in that is enclosed by a chain link fence. In the area around the chain link fence, they have guard donkeys. They will chase away coyotes and can give them a severe stomping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_BpI0yAVek


35 posted on 10/05/2015 2:38:52 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: glorgau

#3 that is ok... : )


36 posted on 10/05/2015 3:12:34 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Texan5

A good post!


37 posted on 10/05/2015 3:55:12 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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38 posted on 10/05/2015 3:55:55 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: SJackson

This why we have a fence.


39 posted on 10/05/2015 4:00:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wrench

In my area of North Carolina the game wardens have said shoot coyotes on site. They feel the same way about Poachers who have threatened me


40 posted on 10/05/2015 4:55:49 PM PDT by Greg223 (tobacco)
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