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Why Conservatives Elected to Congress Turn Into Moderates
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2015 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 10/05/2015 8:24:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

My eyes must be playing tricks on me.

When I read the title, my eyes substituted “monsters” for moderates.


21 posted on 10/05/2015 9:22:26 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: Kaslin

If the federal gov’t didn’t take so much money from taxpayers for things they don’t have any co institutional power over, for redistribution to States and local governments that do their bidding, a lot of this wouldn’t happen. If a representative doesn’t bring back enough of this ransom money to his/her district, that is a co consideration in elections.


22 posted on 10/05/2015 9:24:58 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin
Moderate?

THAT ... I could ALMOST live with... but they are not Moderates... they are all out Liberals most of the time.

That's the great thing about prostitution.

You have it ... You sell it... YOU STILL HAVE IT!

They sell themselves JUST like whores.... over and over and over AGAIN!

23 posted on 10/05/2015 9:25:15 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: Kaslin

This is somewhat insightful but flawed. All members of Congress are paid $174,000 per year and receive a LIFETIME pension for serving only one term in Congress.

The lifetime pension should be done away with and the only thing that should be substituted are enticements similar to what the military offer: cancellation of student loan debt, one year’s pay upon vacating membership, mandatory hireback provisions for members that left an employed position and so on.

The goal is to get members out of the mindset that they are set for life, that they feel compelled to stay in Congress because the perks are so good, etc.


24 posted on 10/05/2015 9:36:23 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Kaslin

They need to understand that they’ll remain employed if they remain conservative and that they won’t if they don’t. And they need to believe it.


25 posted on 10/05/2015 9:41:34 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: ThomasMore

I don’t think term limits would solve this. K Street could recruit/hire these people after 8 yrs. as easily as they do after 20.


26 posted on 10/05/2015 9:49:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Part of the term limit would be a moratorium on being hired by donors.


27 posted on 10/05/2015 9:57:49 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: TigerClaws

Rubio didn’t sell out after he got elected—he sold out so he could get elected.


28 posted on 10/05/2015 9:58:16 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

Yeah! And to think that I voted for the bastard. won’t happen again. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. This time, each piece of Republican literature I receive soliciting votes, I plan to look up the website or email address to contact them and explain why I will not be voting for them. Will they care? Probably not. But when they see Democrats collecting payoffs and bribes that could have been theirs.....


29 posted on 10/05/2015 10:09:23 AM PDT by sport
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To: Carry_Okie; Let's Roll
Note that term limits make this problem even worse, flooding the job market with termed-out representatives. That means they must make those "take out" relationships earlier, before even running.
I put it to you that the answer, in addition to term limits, is a generous salary - but no retirement benefits - and a minimum age requirement of 35 yrs - for any significant political office.

The objective is to make public service - not “public service” - an option for competent people who already have a life.

Temporary public service. Not a career.


30 posted on 10/05/2015 11:12:52 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Kaslin

The author of this article missed the target - by several miles.

It is impossible for a Congressman or Senator to even attempt to do his duty without a staff. And, the staff does a lot more than answer the phone, open the mail, and greet visitors. In fact, the staff writes most of the legislation and tells the Congressman/Senator all the good and bad things about legislation written by other Congressmen/Senators.

So, where do you get effective staffers? The first pool is from your predecessor if he was from the same political party. The second pool is from ex-staffers who remained in the D.C. area the last time your party held that particular seat. The final source are recent graduates from the various schools in the D.C. area. Please note - NONE of the these staffers, the real power behind the legislative system, came from the district/state that elected the new conservative Congressman/Senator. They come from “inside the beltway” with all of attributes that that implies.

Proof of my position occurred immediately after the 1994 “Republican Revolution”. CNN was interviewing an outgoing Democratic staffer about all the problems he was facing now that he was out of a job. The follow questions revealed that the Congressman in question has lost his first reelection bid but the staff had worked as a staffer for a Democratic Congressman for over a decade.

Want to ensure a Conservative remains a Conservative when he goes to D.C.? Make him select his political staff from the same pool that elected him. Will that slow things down because they aren’t professional staffers? Well, to quote one Herman Cain; “You have been trying professional politicians for the last several years - how’s that working out for you?”


31 posted on 10/05/2015 11:16:50 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Temporary public service. Not a career.

After all, who'd want a professional politician, like James Madison?

32 posted on 10/05/2015 11:33:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: Waryone
Here is your:

You are full of it Alert


33 posted on 10/05/2015 12:07:39 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

A good article that expands on the folly of conservative involvement in electoral politics. Here we have reason #1 in a little more detail: the politicians are bought and paid for. We all probably realize that, but this article gives a little more of the “how.”

Electoral politics is a suckers game for conservatives.


34 posted on 10/05/2015 12:12:33 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: Carry_Okie
After all, who'd want a professional politician, farmer like James Madison?

35 posted on 10/05/2015 12:13:21 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

James Madison did about as much actual hands-on farming as I do.


36 posted on 10/05/2015 12:32:26 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (CIAO Trump: Conservative In Appearance Only)
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To: Kaslin

As a Floridian, I’ve known about RINO Rubio for some time. He likes liberal ideas. He’s just recently started to show some of them off. For a long time I’ve watched Marco, but he hasn’t been around as long as your two Tennessee Twin RINOs, Corker and LAMAR! Do you love them both as much as you love RINO Rubio? Or do you just have a special thing for him?

Which recent one of Marco’s lib ideas is your favorite, amnesty or #Blacklivesmatter (illegal and hispanic lives too, but no one else’s matters)? I might just steal your little alert gif and use it to ping you every time Marco comes out with another one of his lib loving ideas. Hang on to your wallet. He has plenty more.


37 posted on 10/05/2015 12:49:52 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: M Kehoe
In before the first Trump mention ...

Sorry, nice try, see § 3 ....

38 posted on 10/05/2015 1:29:18 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Norm Lenhart
If people would research who they vote for, they would find their ‘conservatives’ are moderates at best

ACU, while somewhat polluted by RiNOism these last few years (so that a good ACU rating doesn't mean what it did 15 years ago), rates legislators down to the State Lege level.

Consulting them, I found that Sarah Davis, my Texas House representative, has an ACU rating of only 44 and a lamentable habit of voting with the liberal-RiNO speaker of the Texas House (who was actually elected with more 'Rat votes than Republican, so he is really a DemonRatican). Sarah ranks as the weakest Republican in the state legislature.

The only clue we had beforehand that she was one of Them, was the slick, glossy campaign flyers we were bombed with in the mail. Glossy flyers bespeak Money, and Money is the Antichrist in republican politics.

39 posted on 10/05/2015 1:39:51 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Their ratings are meaningless when all the damage takes plase offstage in the leadup to voting. And as you know, they only vote conservastive when they cannot win.

Which the GOP has set up via leadership to ensure they can’t. End result being very undeserved vote ratings when there is Far, far more to the story.

People need to do their homework for themselves, not rely on rigged ratings.


40 posted on 10/05/2015 1:43:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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